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Paul Kemp
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« on: December 02, 2012, 10:14:41 PM »

According to sources and the rumor grapevine; Obama is considering current Ambassador to Ireland, Rooney with Clinton; if so, doesn't such a possibility complicate matters for Hillary with 2016 on the distant horizon? Thoughts.

Where are these sources and rumors?
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2012, 01:12:58 PM »

If Hillary runs, she has the nomination in the bag.

Jesus H. Christ. To say with four years to go that someone has the nomination already in a bag...

I had to double check and make sure that post wasn't from 2004.
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2012, 02:56:08 PM »

If Hillary runs, she has the nomination in the bag.

Jesus H. Christ. To say with four years to go that someone has the nomination already in a bag...

I had to double check and make sure that post wasn't from 2004.

We don't have any Obamas this time. Hillary would have been a shoo-in against Edwards or any other, but Obama 2004 speech and the "hope" and "change" he promissed was something not even Hillary could beat. Who do you think could beat Hillary this time? Remember that her approvals are higher now than they were in 2007-208, too.

When was the last time the Democrats went with the expected candidate? Incumbents aside of course.
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2012, 03:03:26 PM »

When was the last time the Democrats went with the expected candidate? Incumbents aside of course.

Other than Gore, which you might deem the incumbent, not in a long long time, and certainly not in 2008.....it was Hillary's to lose.

Oops forgot about Gore but yea that seems to be an exception rather than a rule.

I'm not saying Hillary can't or won't be the nominee but a lot can change and usually does.
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2012, 06:02:12 PM »

Kerry, Dukakis, Carter, McGovern, Stevenson (1952)... none of them were early favorites.

Clinton.
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2012, 07:56:18 PM »

Kerry, Dukakis, Carter, McGovern, Stevenson (1952)... none of them were early favorites.

Clinton.

Yes, but hardly was considered kind of "unstoppable juggernaut" back in 1989.

Wait...what...I was adding Clinton to you list of candidates who weren't early favorites...
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