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Paul Kemp
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« on: September 27, 2011, 11:27:43 AM »

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http://news.yahoo.com/senator-blocks-pipeline-safety-bill-principle-070809432.html

OMG NOT DA FEDURAL GOVMENT!11!!!!1
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2011, 08:54:42 PM »


The fact that this doesn't raise red flags with you people speaks to the intellectual bankruptcy of your ideology.

Business is the good guy, no?
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2011, 01:28:18 PM »

I don't care whether big business and corporations support such initiatives; I only care about measures to ensure that things are being done safe and properly.

The philosophy of Rand Paul and other libertarians seems to be that we should let private industry determine what is safe and proper, when really it usually results in cutting corners to save costs. Ideally this should work but it has not as we have seen time and time again.

My problem here is with Paul and individuals voting for this based on the fact that   its action from the federal government and ignoring what apparently is for the common good.

I await responses that I probably won't reply to any time soon. 
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2011, 05:16:19 PM »

Why else would you mention "even the industry supports it" in your OP?

Because it was included in the original two paragraphs of the article which is what I copied and pasted as a preview? I don't selectively edit articles when I post them.
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 05:27:52 PM »

Why else would you mention "even the industry supports it" in your OP?

Because it was included in the original two paragraphs of the article which is what I copied and pasted as a preview? I don't selectively edit articles when I post them.

Fair enough it seemed like that was the emphasis of the argument though.

My problem with the whole thing is that Paul's argument with this, like most other issues, is that he opposes this based on the grounds that it involves government action no matter the issue.

The argument that yourself and Ernest raised is certainly a valid one and I wouldn't necessarily disagree with it should the facts line up.
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Paul Kemp
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2011, 09:39:36 AM »

The fact that a Senator can single-handedly block anything is the real issue here.
^^^^^^^^^^^^

The Senate is so screwed up.

Seems to be a recurring problem with Kentucky's Class 3 senators, too.  Remember when Jim Bunning single-handedly stopped all unemployment benefits from being paid for weeks, because he was a vindictive old bastard?

To be fair, Bunning probably just thought he was getting ready for a baseball game.
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