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Bono
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« on: July 28, 2008, 11:12:10 AM »

I think you, like many people, are confused about the Reformed position on the Lord's Supper. Many people believe we take the Zwinglian view that the bread and wine are only symbolic, but actually we take a middle ground view that while Christ is present in the Supper, He is not present in the bread and wine as themselves but present spiritually. To quote the Westminster Confession:

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2008, 03:45:02 PM »

I think you, like many people, are confused about the Reformed position on the Lord's Supper. Many people believe we take the Zwinglian view that the bread and wine are only symbolic, but actually we take a middle ground view that while Christ is present in the Supper, He is not present in the bread and wine as themselves but present spiritually. To quote the Westminster Confession:

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Bono, I knew that -- but I should have clarified what I meant by Reformed.  There are all kinds of churches that claim to come from the Reformed tradition, but you're right -- the Presbyterians in particular (of all stripes) do believe in a spiritual presence.  Some theologians in the United Church of Christ do as well.  I cannot speak to the Reformed Church in America, the Christian Reformed Church or the various Brethren and Peace Churches.

Most Baptists, Grace Brethren and Evangelical Free Churches are pretty solidly "symbolic only" folks.  I also don't know where the Covenant Church stands, but I suspect it would be closer to what you have outlined.

Thanks so much for the great catch.
I see what you mean now, thanks for making it clearer. I'm not familiar with many of the denominations you mentioned, but I can enlighten you about where the continental tradition Reformed churches, aka the Reformed Church in America, the Christian Reformed Church and similar stand. I'll quote the Belgic Confession, which is to them what the Westminster Confession is to us Presbyterians:

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As you can see, they share the Presbyterian 'spiritual presence' view. I do know Reformed Baptists take the symbolic only view though.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 01:44:49 PM »

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!  This is great!!!!

I can't figure out if that's sarcasm or not. *scratches head*
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