Teenage Girl Stabbed For Converting Out of The Religion of Peace

[Bono]

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Religion link to stabbing

Greg Stolz

October 11, 2006 12:00am
Article from: The Courier-Mail

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A RELIGIOUS feud between a Muslim father and his teenage daughter may have sparked a bloody domestic dispute on the Gold Coast which left the man's wife dead and him fighting for life in hospital.

Police are investigating suggestions the violence erupted after the 17-year-old girl told her father she wanted to opt out of the Islamic faith and convert to Christianity. The girl's mother is believed to have stepped in to protect her daughter, only to be fatally stabbed with a kitchen knife.

Neighbours reported hearing "blood-curdling" screams before the hysterical girl ran half-naked from their Southport home unit covered in scratches.

Police later found the body of the girl's mother, 41, inside the blood-smeared unit. Her husband was taken to the Gold Coast Hospital with a stab wound to the chest. He was last night in a critical condition under police guard.

Neighbour Caitlin Dalton was taking out the rubbish about 7pm on Monday when she heard "loud, huge, terrifying screams" coming from the unit complex.

"She (the teenager) was yelling, 'Help me, help me, they're trying to kill me'," Ms Dalton said. "Everybody heard the screams but we couldn't work out which unit they were coming from. Then this girl emerged in the stairwell hysterical and crying.

"Her clothes had been ripped off, she was just in her underwear and she had quite severe scratches down her arm and across her back."

Ms Dalton said that as residents tried to comfort the sobbing girl, she told how she had wanted to "convert from the Islam religion . . . and obviously her father didn't handle it very well".

"She said her parents were really strict," Ms Dalton said.

[Bono]

Why you'ld never be able to call it a "religion of peace" again.

I don't see why you say "again", since I never did so. Jesus specifially siad he wasn't going to bring peace:

51"Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division;
52for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three.
53"They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law." Luke 12:51-53

[Bono]

The thing is, Islam was FOUNDED on violence. It's the only modern major religion I can think of that was, all others had peaceful founders.

Great quote from another forum on this:

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You cannot tell anything from this map.
First of all, it is nessesary to know that the beduins of Arabia had been in nearly constant warfare before they converted to Islam.
Second, the reason for the succes of the attacks under the first Caliphs, was the weakness of the Byzantine Empire and Sassanide Empire caused by a just finished war that left both Empires nearly powerless. The loss of the richest 3th of the empire was something Byzantium never got over, and that coupled with the extra power the Caliphate gained from conquering the Sassanides (Persia) and Egypt, made it impossible for Byzantium to defend Tunis and the remains of the North African possesions.
Third, the fall of the Visigoth Empire in the Iberian Peninsula was very swift again because of internal strife and the conquest of the Visigoths also marked the maximum expansion of the Caliphate. The empire was already at this time too enormous to govern and and the outer rim quickly became independent.
Fourth, and very important. The map of the Caliphate is not a religious map. Islam did not cover these areas. Places like Egypt and Syria had a large Christian population and when the crusaders arrived 400 years later, Palestine still had a large Christian minority.

Okay. How much did Jesus and the apostles invade?
Exactly.

[Bono]

The thing is, Islam was FOUNDED on violence. It's the only modern major religion I can think of that was, all others had peaceful founders.

Great quote from another forum on this:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

You cannot tell anything from this map.
First of all, it is nessesary to know that the beduins of Arabia had been in nearly constant warfare before they converted to Islam.
Second, the reason for the succes of the attacks under the first Caliphs, was the weakness of the Byzantine Empire and Sassanide Empire caused by a just finished war that left both Empires nearly powerless. The loss of the richest 3th of the empire was something Byzantium never got over, and that coupled with the extra power the Caliphate gained from conquering the Sassanides (Persia) and Egypt, made it impossible for Byzantium to defend Tunis and the remains of the North African possesions.
Third, the fall of the Visigoth Empire in the Iberian Peninsula was very swift again because of internal strife and the conquest of the Visigoths also marked the maximum expansion of the Caliphate. The empire was already at this time too enormous to govern and and the outer rim quickly became independent.
Fourth, and very important. The map of the Caliphate is not a religious map. Islam did not cover these areas. Places like Egypt and Syria had a large Christian population and when the crusaders arrived 400 years later, Palestine still had a large Christian minority.

Okay. How much did Jesus and the apostles invade?
Exactly.

Jesus didnt get a chance did he? Perhaps if he wasnt cruxified the history of Christianity might have been different. There might have been a christian uprising against the roman empire which might have resulted in a few deaths.

You cant compare the two religions in those terms because they had very VERY different circumstances surrounding them.

There is no "if Jesus was not crucified". His cruxification was preordained from before the creation of the universe.
Anyways, I don't know what stopped the apostles, if they were the fakers that you believe them to be, from they themselves rallying the movement and revolt. However, they didn't.