Mideast Constitutional Convention

[afleitch]

I support Inks for Presiding Officer.

I hate the idea of the Chief Executive as presiding officer on principle.  This is not based on Inks cause I think he is a pretty honorable guy but if they wanted to the Governor as presiding officer could simply make moves to increase his own power in the region, at the expense of others. 

I will pass comment as serving Governor. I made the decision to take no part in these proceedings in my capacity as Governor, let alone chair for the same reason. Inks is free to do as he wishes, but he should not chair proceedings.

[afleitch]

I support Peter

[afleitch]

I support Peter

As of now, I WILL be counting that as a vote for Peter.  I just want to give you the opportunity to say otherwise if that's not the case.

Not till I leave office It's my support, not my vote. No votes cast remember

[afleitch]

1. Abolition of the role of Lt Gov. Speaker is 2nd in line, and assumes the Judge nominating responsibility.

Given the order of business, would it suit the Convention for me to resign as Lt Governor Elect and leave the office vacant?

[afleitch]

Can I also draw to the Conventions attention that there, if I reading this right, is nothing in the Constitution to bar one person from holding more than one office within the Mideast. This is not a statement for or against such a condition but I feel it should be honestly adressed. I don't think this is adressed in statute either.

[afleitch]

I'm happy with it, especially the section dealing with legislation

I think a slight amendment at Article 1.2.2 to determine the recall procedure (other than 'accumulating the necessary support') would be helpful.

[afleitch]

Bump.  This should've opened today at noon.

Look, I know some of you have problems with me being Governor and chairing this process, but if nobody else is going to do it, I will.

I'm not saying that I want to do both - I'd love it if somebody else did, but it seems like I've been one of the only active peopl in here.

Activity has stalled of late....

However I put that down to Peter's 99% completed proposal for a constitution - people seem happy with that. And in all that's a good thing, For the reasons you outlined, I will stand if I still can as I am against the idea of the Governor acting as chair, even though I'm not keen on chairing.

Other than that we might have to wave a stick

[afleitch]

[X] afleitch

[afleitch]

I am back. Give me a few hours to get my senses back and we can proceed!

[afleitch]

Thank you Inks.

I will put aside 'order of business' and cut to the chase.

What he have (and what probably resulted in a decline in activity here) is Peter's draft constitution which I am satisfied with barring a few amendments. While I am eager for approval, I think it is important that some issues are addressed. Regarding the recall procedure, this may have been me being a tad pedantic so I am happy to withdraw this suggestion. On the others highlighted there should be a brief period of discussion and debate before we get to any vote on amending the draft constitution.

The issue of the Superior Court is very much up for debate and I open up the floor for discussion. On a personal note, I believe that the office should be wound down with authority rested in the federal courts (who when making a judgment do so under the Mideast Constitution) This is a delegation of authority and as such should not be 'automatic'. I agree with PS's suggestion of the Assembly making that delegation of authority on a case by case basis. Other devolved bodies internationally have made use of the precedent of delegation.

However the floor is open on this issue.

[afleitch]

I agree that is probably best to agree in principle to the template then finalise with amendments.

Please vote aye or nay on whether to formally adopt Peter's constitution as a 'template' prior to further amendments.

Aye []
Nay []

Voting will remain open for one week. D'oh - 48 hours.

During this time draft amendments may be formed and tabled so that voting can open the following week. If these amendments are all voted down then we would still have Peter's constitution (if people vote in support)

[afleitch]

Aye

[afleitch]

I won't stand for P.O. I will open the booth accordingly.

Presiding Officer

Purple State [ ]
Write-in [ ]

The results on the adoption of the draft constitution, though self evident will be certified after the end of the 48 hour voting period.

[afleitch]

Presiding Officer

Purple State [X ]
Write-in [ ]

[afleitch]

7 Ayes and 0 Nays on the vote to adopt Peter's draft Constitution. Motion carried

[afleitch]

I have no issues with the proposed amendments excluding Amendment 2. I believe that voting on propositions should be held once a month at a set time rather than scattered across the calendar month (for reasons of turnout) However that is a minor issue and I am willing to bend to popular opinion on that one.

I also intend to formally table an amendment that abolishes the position of Superior Court Judge delegating authority to a federal judge (and making the Speaker of the Assembly the 'junior' when booths need to be administered followed by the most senior Assemblyman etc)

On that note anyone who wishes to formally table suggested amendments please do so. It is preferrable to vote on these issues in one 'sitting' so to speak, rather than have a wave of voting.

[afleitch]

Grand idea.

[afleitch]

Aye on 1,2,3,4,5

Aye on 6; Option 1

[afleitch]

I was thinking of one other thing just now - what if people simply recall the judge because they disagree with how he ruled a case?

That is a possibility. Therefore I have an issue with the second part of the amendment. After some thought on the issue of SCJ, we may have to revert to the current set-up if no other system can work well and without political intervention.

[afleitch]

Can't believe I missed this

Election for Presiding Officer:

[ 1] Purple State
[ ] Write-in:


Amendment 6a

Aye

[afleitch]

Aye.

Time to concentrate on other matters.