Target caves to right-wing terrorism, removes Pride merchandise for employee safety

[afleitch]

Good. No business should sell "tuck friendly" women swimwear where children shop. Glad Target did the right thing

Target also sells lingerie, but I'm going to guess you and every other conservative doesn't have a problem with that.

I am a social democrat. I want free college and single payer healthcare. Foodstamps for everyone who needs it. Pro union and high minimum wage. Pro immigration.

He wasn't asking about that.

He was asking that as Target sells lingerie, should that be sold where, as you say, 'children shop'?

I imagine that since you object to something as benign as swimwear then you do. Why not just answer?

[afleitch]

Good. No business should sell "tuck friendly" women swimwear where children shop. Glad Target did the right thing

What's wrong with tuck friendly swimwear? The alternative is what probably a miniscule minority of trans people but unfortunately a decent chunk of the more in your face activist types and the standard insufferable Twitter people want, which is actually flaunting bulges to get people upset (and would actually be quite frowned upon and even argued to be sexual harassment coming from cis men.) But again that's a tiny minority and "tuck friendly" swimwear is a good thing to have for the trans people who aren't them.

The Satanic stuff on the other hand is pure evil and it's good that that's going away (although of course the threats and violence are not justified and those engaging in them need to be aggressively prosecuted.)

I don't have a problem with trans people (just need to get that out of the way)

But I think there is an agenda to make children trans, who aren't trans. This is wrong. Just like its wrong to try to make trans children not trans.

Target having "tuck friendly" swimwear is part of that agenda. It wants to present being trans as both cool and a choice for all children. Its the same logic as "children under five can't possible know rather they are a boy or girl so both should be presented as options"

Is the Target near my husband's hometown that sells Philadelphia Eagles merch marketed to children trying to make them Eagles fans?

[afleitch]

There were Census questions asked of this in the UK.

1% of 16-24 year olds identified as trans

Amongst my age group it's 0.7%. In my parents age group, 0.3%

I've been out of the closet for 22 years.

4.5% of 16-24 men identified as LGB. In my age group 3.5%. In my parents age group 1%

Similar stats for women.

If the 'youngs' are too trans because of some nebulous 'contagion' or because 'it's cool' or 'a phase' what's the 'correct' figure? If the increase in trans ID is in line with that of LGB identification, which it is, then what's our 'correct' figure?

Who's going to start telling gay men pushing 40, 'oh the numbers are a bit high'.

[afleitch]

There were Census questions asked of this in the UK.

1% of 16-24 year olds identified as trans

Amongst my age group it's 0.7%. In my parents age group, 0.3%

I've been out of the closet for 22 years.

4.5% of 16-24 men identified as LGB. In my age group 3.5%. In my parents age group 1%

Similar stats for women.

If the 'youngs' are too trans because of some nebulous 'contagion' or because 'it's cool' or 'a phase' what's the 'correct' figure? If the increase in trans ID is in line with that of LGB identification, which it is, then what's our 'correct' figure?

Who's going to start telling gay men pushing 40, 'oh the numbers are a bit high'.

Do this distinct between trans gender and non-binary.

In Denmark 0,54% identifies as non-binary, while 0,1% identifies as transgender. The number of trans women and men are equal, while more people born female (66%) than born male (33%) identifies as non-binary.

Of the general population 1,1% identifies as homosexual (around 75% gays to 25% lesbian), 2,2% identifies as bisexual (around 40% male and 60% female), 0,2% identifies as asexual with a slight overrepresentation of women. 4,8% has a other or unclear sexual identity (over representation of women). 92% of the population identifies as heterosexual (slight overrepresentation of men).

Interesting fact people with a Muslim background are significant more likely than people with a non-Muslim background to identify as LGBTQ+ (in all categories). This came as a surprise when I read it first time. In case of transgender/non-binary 1,8% of people of Muslims background identifies as such, while 0,51% of people of non-Muslim background.

Other interesting fact, homosexuals are massive overrepresented in the capital region, while transgender, non-binary and bisexual are spread out over the country, in fact the regions with the two biggest cities (Copenhagen and Aarhus) is the two region where transgender and non-binary are underrepresented. I find it interesting that people in less urban areas are more likely to have non-cis identity, this in my opinion is a argument against the fashion argument.

Source: Projekt Sexus 2019

You were the one who postulated increased trans ID as reflecting 'fashion'. And compared it to anorexia and ASD.

I have evidence that it correlated with increased LGB identity across age groups.

So if trans is 'fashion' so is LGB. And are you then suggesting that I've been following 'fashion' for the last twenty years?