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afleitch
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« on: February 01, 2022, 01:06:23 PM »

Position E.

As our understanding of the 'world' and all that it entails has expanded, we've never looked at 'x' and determined that it had a supernatural explanation or source over any other explanation. Many understandings and events that used to have a supernatural explanation are now understood, even by those who believe in miracles, to not be supernatural in origin.

No one who has ever prayed or made offerings to a supernatural force to replace a missing hand for example, has ever had that hand grow back; they would be a world figure if that had occurred and been recorded. But we can now surgically attach donor hands. So the pool of what is deemed 'miraculous' even if we give them the benefit of the doubt and not attempt to demonstrate natural explanations for such occurrences; in effect how far a 'miracle' can go, is increasingly being outpaced by scientific understanding and advancement.

I also think it's disingenuous, to hold up a miracle claimed through intercession by entity A and an equal one through entity B and for each side to claim it can't be a miracle or if it is, it must come from the entity they personally root for. If anything that confines the supernatural as a distinct cause in way that a 'material' belief in a non supernatural explanation does not.
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2022, 06:39:06 AM »

Joss Whedon is a fervent atheist and actually kind of a "New Atheist", which actually fits well with the unsavory aspects of his personality we now know about.

Excuse me?
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2022, 11:12:21 AM »

Joss Whedon is a fervent atheist and actually kind of a "New Atheist", which actually fits well with the unsavory aspects of his personality we now know about.

Excuse me?
New Atheists are extremely unpleasant people. How many people don't think Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris are douchebags?

Come on.

You said he was 'a fervent atheist and actually kind of a "New Atheist", which actually fits well with the unsavory aspects of his personality we now know about.'

You're linking potentially serious allegations casually to his atheism (there is nothing to suggest he considered himself or was considered a New Athiest) and your strawman of atheism.

Wind your neck in. Grow up. You're pushing 40.
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