Atlas Sexual Morality Poll

[afleitch]

1) Agree

2) Agree

3) Agree

4) Disagree

5) Agree, if by consent

6) It's just greedy

7) Agree

[afleitch]

Because to consistently engage in something that you legitimately believe is wrong is unhealthy and destructive. I'm sure you're describing a significant number of people, and it's frankly a shame that they've been guilted into thinking that something as innocent as porn is "morally bankrupt," but, more often than not, I don't think someone who faps to porn everyday could truly believe it's immoral. I do think, though, that many people who enjoy porn are brought up in socially-conservative environments where the only right answer to the question is "yes, porn's bad."

I think what it comes down to is that a good number of them actually believe in Christianity and have not discarded the aspects of sexual morality that come with it (barring liberal Christianity of course), including believing masturbation is a sin. A lot of them don't have the strength to actually stop. So they can go a couple directions from there, either continue in a state of internal conflict, find the strength to stop, or take the standard narcissistic modern approach and redefine their moral beliefs to fit their lifestyle. I know we live in an era where nothing is ever supposed to hurt our self-esteem, or heaven forbid require us to make any difficult changes to our lifestyle, but perhaps not everyone believes they're God's gift to the world and never do anything wrong. Some people recognize that they are sinners even if they don't stop.

I think the fact you think masturbation is such a big deal that you regularly make the point of telling us how you don't do it and how others that do are falling short says a lot about you.

[afleitch]

Because to consistently engage in something that you legitimately believe is wrong is unhealthy and destructive. I'm sure you're describing a significant number of people, and it's frankly a shame that they've been guilted into thinking that something as innocent as porn is "morally bankrupt," but, more often than not, I don't think someone who faps to porn everyday could truly believe it's immoral. I do think, though, that many people who enjoy porn are brought up in socially-conservative environments where the only right answer to the question is "yes, porn's bad."

I think what it comes down to is that a good number of them actually believe in Christianity and have not discarded the aspects of sexual morality that come with it (barring liberal Christianity of course), including believing masturbation is a sin. A lot of them don't have the strength to actually stop. So they can go a couple directions from there, either continue in a state of internal conflict, find the strength to stop, or take the standard narcissistic modern approach and redefine their moral beliefs to fit their lifestyle. I know we live in an era where nothing is ever supposed to hurt our self-esteem, or heaven forbid require us to make any difficult changes to our lifestyle, but perhaps not everyone believes they're God's gift to the world and never do anything wrong. Some people recognize that they are sinners even if they don't stop.

Why is "redefining your moral beliefs" so wrong? I'd rather live my life exploring the world and reaching my own conclusions about morality than unquestioningly accept someone else's moral code. There's no standard here. These are difficult questions for a reason, and if they're not difficult I kind of question whether you're doing it right. There's more to the world than rules and baseless self-restraint.

Because what's the point in believing anything's wrong if you're just going to change it every time you do something in violation?

You've accepted another persons moral code, or the moral code of another body which likes to think that it doesn't change but it does. Views of what is right and wrong are based on interaction with other individuals. An isolated person has an isolated mind. Internalising one moral code without recourse to experience or empathy for that which you cannot or do not experience but others do, is morally flawed. If you are not challenged by the outside world to constantly re-evaluate the moral code that you have chosen to internalise to best fit an ideology you concurrently subscribe to, you are not holding a morally superior position.

[afleitch]

I'm happy with all but 4. I really don't care about bedroom habits.

However, 4 has to do with children. Some children are better off not suffering in a loveless marriage.

[afleitch]

1) Viewing pornographic material is ok.

2) It is a good idea for couples considering marriage to live together in order to decide whether or not they get along well enough to be married to one another.

3) It is ok for two people to get together for sex and not necessarily expect anything further.

4) If a couple has children, they should stay married unless there is physical or emotional abuse.

5) It is sometimes permissible for a married person to have sex with someone other than his/her spouse.

6) It is ok for three or more consenting adults to live together in a sexual/romantic relationship.

7) I support abortion rights.

5. Agree, regardless of how their spouse feels about the subject.

lol wut

I believe that you are not harming your spouse (or anyone for that matter) if you have extra-marital sex with someone other than your spouse. So, of course, it is acceptable.

Yeah, what they don't know won't hurt them, right?

This is what we've come to.

Some couples are open to extra-marital sex. It's entirely up to them.