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afleitch
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« on: August 01, 2014, 09:30:45 AM »

No.

The thing about gay people is that they are incredibly patient. We've always had to wait on each step of the rights movement from decriminalisation to marriage, on the majority deciding when it was appropriate to give us some rights. How very nice of them. So we can wait. But there will be a point when opposing it becomes indefensible. When society isn't crumbling because of it and people you know are gay and married and the vast majority of people don't even notice sexuality as a defining characteristic, those who still oppose it or wave about a leather book en lieu of using thought will join the ranks of societies greatest assholes alongside those who think women should be in the kitchen and mixed race babies are an abomination.
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 12:16:59 PM »

A claim that if true just makes your opposition to gay marriage more jarring because their opposition has the benefit of making sense.

So you accept religious opposition to gay marriage as a valid reason?

I accept it as less nonsensical than whatever your reasoning is.

To be fair, faith based opposition to something based on interpretation of 'revelation' as opposed to any evidential basis or understanding gleamed from social interaction is just as nonsensical. Unless one lives in a societal or cultural bubble, which TJ, DC and our friend here do not.

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2014, 11:06:51 AM »

No.

The thing about gay people is that they are incredibly patient. We've always had to wait on each step of the rights movement from decriminalisation to marriage, on the majority deciding when it was appropriate to give us some rights. How very nice of them. So we can wait. But there will be a point when opposing it becomes indefensible. When society isn't crumbling because of it and people you know are gay and married and the vast majority of people don't even notice sexuality as a defining characteristic, those who still oppose it or wave about a leather book en lieu of using thought will join the ranks of societies greatest assholes alongside those who think women should be in the kitchen and mixed race babies are an abomination.

Well I guess I'm an asshole, because if a woman Wants to be a housewife I fail to see what is wrong with that. Many married women work because they have to not because they want to. Suppose a man wants to be a so called "housewife"? Is there anything wrong with that? So,  if it's ok for a man to be a housewife why not a woman? Somehow, though, I don't think that is what you meant. Of course, I do not believe a woman should be denied the opportunity to work, in fact, most people are ready to have a woman president even if not specifically for Hillary or Palin.

You grabbed something I didn't say and ran with it Tongue

If a man thinks a woman should be in the kitchen regardless of what the woman wants to do thereby placing his desires over hers, then he is an chauvinistic asshole. If a woman or man wishes to be a homemaker then of course that's fine.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2014, 12:14:29 PM »

I think respectful  hatred along the lines of TJ or DC is not banworthy.

Neither TJ nor DC are hateful people in the least.

Didn't TJ say he'd disown his hypothetical gay child?

No btw.

If he did, I didn't see it.

He's thinking of usefulidiot. TJ just thinks you can pray it away.
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