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Question: Should the IDS Nuclear Energy Bill be overturned?
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« on: April 07, 2013, 11:57:30 PM »
« edited: April 09, 2013, 10:53:43 PM by Dereich »

Ok everyone, Zanas has decided to take his anti-nuclear crusade to the people. In the legislature we recently passed VERY contentious bill titled the "Clean Power Act" which was a relic of the Ben Kenobi days which proposed creating 50 new nuclear power plants. After narrowing down the number to 5 and after two months of long debate the bill was passed 3-2. Zanas has now found it fit to bring it to a referendum. As I'm tired of the constant sniping in the election threads, I think it'll be best to continue the debate here. The final text of the bill as passed reads as follows:

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If you'd like more information, you can check the offices of Zanas and Sjoyce where they have been fighting it out here:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=158758.msg3671917#msg3671917
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=170391.msg3678323#msg3678323

and in the legislature where we debated the actual bill starting here:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=112235.msg3636377#msg3636377
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 03:47:01 AM »

After a discusion with Dereich about the specifics of the bill.  I found a couple flaws with it that I overlooked earlier(Originally I was advocating for 75/25 split between solar/nuclear investment). The main problem with this proposal is that it's a generation II reactor design, when we can be building generation III and III+ reactors in the near future.
The second problem is the vague language used about the benefit of this bill to the citizens of IDS and the precautions that will taken to mitigate hazards associated with nuclear reactors.


While the original reactors at the plant are of an old design the new ones being installed are of a much newer design circa 2007; https://www.mnes-us.com/us-apwr/overview

And as for your proposal, it would have been nice but Zanas (and Sjoyce, from outside the legislature) decided to the bill into a full referendum on nuclear power. I have said many times that I hope that a comprehensive energy plan that focuses on renewable resources comes after this, but this needed to be solved now to get the nuclear issue out of the way and provide an intermediary step to getting rid of fossil fuels.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 03:48:57 AM »

Ok everyone, Zanas has decided to take his anti-nuclear crusade to the people. In the legislature we recently passed VERY contentious bill titled the "Clean Power Act" which was a relic of the Ben Kenobi days which proposed creating 50 new nuclear power plants. After narrowing down the number to 5 and after two months of long debate the bill was passed 3-2.
I'd rather say that I decided to make the most of what our Constitution has to offer in matters of democracy on a subject which has been thoroughly discussed and contested, as shown by the vote of 3-2 and the never ending debates in our mutual threads. Wink

However, I think what you just opened can only be a poll on the referendum to come, since Article I, 7. of our Constitution states : "The Emperor shall be the chief executive officer of the Imperial Dominion of the South and is responsible for administrative duties including operation of Imperial regional elections."

Yes, I can be a real legal pain in the ass, like BaconKing but with much more presence... I furthermore encourage every IDS citizen to read our Constitution here, to better appropriate it, since we're probably be spending the Spring amending it heavily. It has some real nice features, and its only drawback is that it has not been given constant enough care. I however am very proud that it's still our First Constitution, and I will not advocate a Second one, just thoroughly amend the current one.

So now we're waiting for PiT to open up yet another booth, except if he has done so while I'm babbling on and on...

No need for legal squabbles; this is only an informal poll to judge the mood. Although now that the real booth is open I guess its kinda pointless Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 03:43:01 PM »

I'm undecided, so that means I lean yes because our legislature passed it and I don't like overturning things without a good reason.

In that case, as its a vote to overturn the bill you lean no Smiley

Also, I'm happy to address any concerns that may be keeping you from voting no on this referendum.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 02:31:24 PM »

I think this revived the South. Plain and clean. Confrontation compels to argue better, which is what we did, and I think the whole people of the South was a winner in this for they are much better informed now and can vote in all conscience.

If everything (nuclear power, Constitutional amendments, every other damn thing) is a partisan issue, then it's very difficult to actually get both sides to come together and get something done for the good of our region. Certainly I'm guilty of it too, but what it did was inject bitter partisanship where there was none before.

Everything ISN'T a partisan affair though; the budget for instance was passed unanimously, with Zanas being one of the keys in preserving harmony. It just seems though that whenever an especially partisan issue comes through we get stuck on it for months.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 10:53:15 PM »

Ok, with about one day left the referendum to overturn the bill is currently failing with

9 Nays to 5 Yeas
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