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John Dibble
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« on: August 23, 2006, 07:35:37 AM »

I really need to get out of here. Those numbers are unexplainable and pathetic.

^^^^^^^^^^

I just don't understand; in what way does people believing or disbelieving in evolution affect you?  I don't subscribe to the theory myself, but it doesn't bother me that you do.  In fact, I think evolution is a very interesting theory, and enjoy studying it, I just don't think it's true.
Heres the problem. I want to be a physicist. No fun being a scientist in a place that wont believe you or use basic logic skills. Like a logger in Anarctica.

You seem to be suffering from some serious misconceptions. First off, physics and evolution are really unrelated subjects. Aside from a few issues like physics of the big bang, most of physics won't contradict with religious teachings, so disbelief won't be as big of an issue in that area. I mean are there really people today who would say that the statement "gravity is caused by mass" or "a change in magnetic flux induces electric current in a conducting loop" goes against the word of god? Secondly, unless you end up working in a really crappy community college or something it's doubtful you'll be talking to many people who can't use basic logic - you're more likely to end up dealing with mainly other scientists and possibly college students if you're a professor. Most of the people you'll actualy work with will be very intelligent, educated people, so again, not an issue. Lastly, if you think that people in those other countries are smarter or more logical simply because they have a higher belief in evolutionary theory you're likely in for a shock. The people there are probably no more logical than the ones here - I find it probable that most of them believe in evolution because it's what they've been told, not because they've seriously researched other theories and ideas and considered the evidence.

You'll find that people will often believe something just because an authority figure or 'expert' tells them it's true. Creationism and religious leaders, global warming and the media, evolution and school teachers - when it comes down to it most people believe because someone of perceived authority or expertise told them to believe it. It just happens that there's a difference in which figures have more sway in this country relative to others. Suppose for a moment that you got a degree in physics, now suppose you go to guest lecture a high school class that has never taken physics before: tell them a complete lie that sounds good, for instance how about that Gauss's law is used to calculate magnetic flux(it's really for calculating electric flux). How many students would believe you at face value simply because you are an expert, doing no additional research whatsoever? I'd wager the majority.
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John Dibble
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2006, 07:16:16 AM »

for instance how about that Gauss's law is used to calculate magnetic flux(it's really for calculating electric flux)

Not sure I agree with this, though it has been many years since I studied Maxwell's equations.  But I do still have my Applied Electromagnetism book.  I would think you could use it to calculate the magnetic flux, but you'd always come up with a value of zero for the net flux.

I just took physics 2, electromagnetism, and I'm pretty sure you can't. I know magnetic flux is involved, but I don't think the equations interact that way. Anyways, I was more talking at the basic idea of what Gauss's law is - that is the electric field times the area it goes through equals the electric flux.
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