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John Dibble
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« on: October 28, 2004, 08:54:27 AM »

Well, it's good that you've made a decision. Vote for who you think will do the best job.

I have to disagree with you on who's best on the economic issue at least - I think Badnarik would do better for the economy, decreasing taxes and unnecessary government services would pump more money into our pockets while decreasing or eliminating that deficit.

Anywho, vote your organs. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2004, 09:14:06 AM »

Well, it's good that you've made a decision. Vote for who you think will do the best job.

I have to disagree with you on who's best on the economic issue at least - I think Badnarik would do better for the economy, decreasing taxes and unnecessary government services would pump more money into our pockets while decreasing or eliminating that deficit.

Anywho, vote your organs. Smiley

I wish I had been able to see Badnarik in Oshkosh on Tuesday.  I think he's a very bright man, and I would have liked to have met him.  I think I could have shaken his hand, said that I enjoyed what he had to say, and agreed with a lot of it, but that I was going to vote Bush.  And I think that he, alone among the candidates, would have respected and understood my decision to vote for someone else.  Libertarians are all about people making decisions for themselves, which is probably why they'll never become a major force in politics ;-).

I have a conservative friend who transplanted to Alabama - he's voting Badnarik, and I may have done the same if I weren't living in such a crucial state.

Yeah, your vote belongs to you - it's your choice who it goes to. I do think we'll become a major political force someday, we just need time, hard work, and luck on our side. Heh, right now telling people to vote their heart is actually more likely to make them vote for us. But, I'm still hoping that the major party candidates will spontaneously combust before election day, so people would have to vote third party. Wink

Of course, I'd be more willing to vote Badnarik if I were in a swing state - spoiling either candidate would get our party some much needed attention. Four years of Kerry would be but a small sacrifice if it meant getting Libertarians into office in 2008 and turning government around.

Just curious though, what state assembly district do you live in?
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John Dibble
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2004, 09:19:00 AM »

I have to disagree with you on who's best on the economic issue at least - I think Badnarik would do better for the economy, decreasing taxes and unnecessary government services would pump more money into our pockets while decreasing or eliminating that deficit.

Ah, but if you had to choose between Bush or Kerry, who do you think would do better for our economy?  Ideally, I'd like a Third-way deficit-hawk, but since we can't have that, Bush is (sadly) the best we can do right now.

Probably Bush, provided he spends less this next term, though I think they both suck on the issue. Though Kerry would be gridlocked from growing government and taxes by the Republican Congress, which would be good too, so it's hard to say.

However, the more votes and attention the Libertarians get now the more likely change will come in the future. Change can not and will not come unless people are willing to work for it - voting the status quo won't make anything change. Therefore I vote and support Libertarians in the hope that things will change. Voting the lesser of two evils still results in evil, and the longer people do that the more damage will be done, so it's best to vote for change as soon as possible.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2004, 10:04:30 AM »

Beef:

1. Fine then, I hope every non-libertarian style Democrat and Republican in power combusts as well. Wink

2. Well, the Party might just be a little more moderate if we had more moderate members. *wink wink* I agree that the Party leadership could stand to at least cool it's jets a bit, but I think we are working towards that end as far as how we get our points across.

3. That's a shame, though the GOP being a joke is probably why the LP is getting attention in that state. I was hoping you lived in District 50, because Tom Kuester is running a pretty viable campaign - the GOP incumbent is treating him more seriously than she is the Democrat(even running slanderous smear ads on the radio against him), and he is able to self-fund his campaign(he owns three restaraunts in the area) so he has raised more money than her - if you know anyone in the district tell them to consider voting for him. There's no LP candidate in your district, unfortunately.
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John Dibble
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2004, 05:35:08 PM »

3. That's a shame, though the GOP being a joke is probably why the LP is getting attention in that state.

I would not mind at all there being more Libertarians in charge of things in Madison, as there are several statewide issues near and dear to me for which I know the Libertarians would come down on my side.

In any event, the Republicans in Madison are worthless.  Our state is a tax hell, the economy's bleeding jobs, and all the Republicans care about are stupid superficial social issues that we don't have time for.  It's time to chuck 'em out.

Maybe you should run under the LP for something next election cycle. Smiley
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