Biden Primetime Address 9/1

[SteveRogers]

Imagine if Trump gave this speech about the left. You would all be foaming at the mouth.

This was not the speech of a winning popular President, this was the speech of a feeble old man realizing his party is about to lose.

Use specifics, Fuzzy. Pinpoint for us exactly which line from the speech you found most offensive or infuriating. We’ll wait.

[SteveRogers]

There was nothing Biden said that brings to mind "American Democracy".  American Democracy involves the presumption of Good Will between opposing parties, at least to some degree.  It is, in truth, the Democrats who have killed this the most, although as Virtue Signaling Addicts, they are incapable of admitting that this even may be true.

I somehow don't recall the 2016 election being an election when one side's views and arguments were censored by those who had the power to influence social media.  I somehow don't remember anyone calling Stacey Abrams' refusal to concede defeat in her Georgia Gubenatorial race to be anti-democratic, un-American, etc.   Both of those things happened in 2020, and it's certainly fair to ask if the factor of heavy-handed censorship that went all one way lent creedence to the idea that the election was not fairly run.  And this is added to by the fact that one of the censors was pumping fantastic sums into directing the managing of elections; the "How " of voting in numerous key state.  Should people not be concerned about the role of Zuckerbucks in our elections, especially when Mark Zuckerberg is hardly a neutral partisan?

January 6th was not an armed insurrection, and all the lies people continue to tell about what it was not only make our national divisions worse.  That does not mean that it was not a riot; it certainly was, and those who participated in the rioting should be held accountable for the crimes they actuallyu committed (not the crimes some would like to say people committed, but can't do so without exaggerating at beast and lying at worst).  It was certainly a wake-up call that, perhaps, some "healing" needed to happen.  And Joe Biden promised this.  I tended to doubt his sincerity the, but if I were President and it was the Left in the role of where Trump supporters were after the election, I would do much to honestly be conciliatory.  But Biden hasn't been conciliatory for 15 minutes.  I'm not sure if he's just not able to be conciliatory (he once was, but he once wasn't semi-senile, either) or being conciliatory just isn't in the cards for those who really run things in Washington (and I assure you that millions of ordinary Americans don't really think Joe Biden is calling the shots).  

What is inexcusable is to, essentially, label all of Trump supporters (essentially those that voted for Trump in 2020) as somehow enemies of America.  And Joe's done that.  Or, at least, he's been told to do that.  What ordinary Americans such as myself who have voted for Trump have known for a while now is that the elites that have supported Obama, Hillary, and Biden truly hate "Middle America".  When Hillary called us "Deplorables", she said the quiet part out loud.  What they really hate is the fact that our belief in what God and Country is will not allow us to simply force a Reimagined America on us.  There is room in our America for all to come as they are.  That is not so in Biden's America; they would rid all institutions of Evangelical Christians, anti-Globalists, and those who are Constitutionalists who value the Constitutional Rights of others as much as they value their own.

Here in Atlas Land, people are shielded from folks like me, and from ideas such as the ones I share here.  These ideas are, in real life, common; indeed, many of my ideas represent majority thought amongst Americans, even now.  Ordinary Americans need to stand up, stand firm, obey the law, but not ever back down.  Joe Biden lied tonight, and he lied shamelessly, and he lied about the decency of 76 million Americans and their families.  He ought to never be able to forget that, and his minions ought to be held accountable for this.

As for me, I have no regrets as to whom I have voted for in 2016 or 2020 (which is not to say that I endorse everything Trump did.).  I have no doubt that America is a fundamentally decent and tolerant nation.  I believe that there IS a battle for the Soul of America.  I'm not on Joe Biden's side, and I hope our side wins.  And we will, ultimately.  The reason we will prevail is because there are more people on our side that pray not for God to be on our side, but for they to be on God's side.  They pray as Abraham Lincoln did in tougher times.  This is something Mr. Biden seems to have forgotten, if he ever knew it at all.

That’s a very long way of saying that you didn’t listen to the speech.

[SteveRogers]

Honestly asking....

What specifically did Biden say that was so outrageous?

What's wrong with a president declaring that insurrections are bad?
What's wrong with a president saying political violence is wrong?
What's wrong with a president saying democracy is good?

1. What happened January 6th is done. It's finished. Bringing it up is now only political theater, and even then, it's arguable whether it was even an "insurrection". A riot at the Capitol is treated like an attack, but tearing down statues or killing people in the streets during race riots is treating with a soft soap. It's selective, and therefore, theater.

2. Donald Trump also tried to say political violence was bad on both sides, and Democrats used that for more divisiveness because they want to pick and choose which sides are allowed to be violent instead of condemning both. They're being selective.

3. The democracy argument doesn't hold weight if it's selective. If you say Trump not conceding is a threat to democracy but Stacey Abrams not conceding isn't, then it's not real outrage, it's selective outrage which then becomes...political theater.

Most of this forum is selective outage, virtue signaling and political theater.

God, that’s the laziest possible false equivalency. Refusing to give a concession speech doesn’t make a losing candidate a threat to democracy. Pressuring lawmakers to disregard the vote totals altogether and install you as the winner does. Spreading baseless conspiracy theories about truckloads of stolen ballots does. Whipping your supporters into a violent furor when your legal challenges fail does.