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SteveRogers
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« on: April 29, 2015, 04:08:33 PM »

You'd sue the individual county clerk who refused to grant you a marriage license in federal court, potentially along with any judge who actively stands in the way. Then an injunction would be issued ordering the clerk to issue the marriage license. Then if they still won't give it to you, they can eventually be held in contempt.
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2015, 10:52:33 PM »

You'd sue the individual county clerk who refused to grant you a marriage license in federal court, potentially along with any judge who actively stands in the way. Then an injunction would be issued ordering the clerk to issue the marriage license. Then if they still won't give it to you, they can eventually be held in contempt.

The problem is that so many couples can't afford to just hire a lawyer and go to court to get a marriage license. Maybe the ACLU would bring a class-action suit?

Yeah, I'm sure the ACLU and various other groups would jump in to get the ball rolling. You'd probably only need to make an example out of a couple obstructionist clerks before the rest would back off.
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2015, 09:34:09 AM »

How will the ruling be enforced if SCOTUS does legalize same-sex marriage? I'm just kind of concerned about how we'd force states like Kansas and Alabama to comply with the ruling and start issuing/recognizing same-sex marriages. We all know what's going on with Roy Moore in Alabama, and in Kansas, despite the fact that same-sex marriage has been legal since November 7, 2014, Sam Brownback has repeatedly stated that he doesn't care what the courts say, and that Kansas will not under any circumstances recognize gay marriages, period, end of discussion. If this happens, what legal recourse do same-sex couples have at that point?


And Brownback would be in the right for doing so. The Federal Appellate Courts shouldn't have any legal jurisdiction at all. Wish my governor had the stones to fight back.


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SteveRogers
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2015, 03:00:06 PM »

Bumpity bump bump...

Even the Supreme Court can't convince Kim Davis that she has no other legal option.

By the looks of it she's about to get slapped with some fines for contempt. Let's see how far she's willing to take this.
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2015, 05:59:50 PM »

Bumpity bump bump...

Even the Supreme Court can't convince Kim Davis that she has no other legal option.

By the looks of it she's about to get slapped with some fines for contempt. Let's see how far she's willing to take this.

Because the SCOTUS must respect religious conscience and freedom. She's in the right.

You're in denial again. SCOTUS basically just told her that she has no chance on appeal. Being a government employee isn't like being a private business. You do not get to pick and choose which citizens you serve. She can't deny marriage licenses to gay couples based on her religious convictions any more than she can refuse to give marriage licenses to Muslim couples. If your religious convictions make it impossible for you to treat all citizens equally, then government work is not for you.
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