Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls

[Adam Griffin]

Why are so many people acting as if Jones has this in the bag? Everybody is thinking about their own decency and forgetting about Alabama's.

Anyway, I haven't seen much evidence of massive movement in aggregate polling where it counts, which is Jones' percentage of the vote. He was basically hovering between 42-44% prior to this; even if you include the garbage 1-day polls and polls from questionable pollsters (pretty much all we have), the past 7 or so polls put him at an average of 44%.

Moore's percentages have dropped; Jones have stayed the same. This is the classic recipe of a Southern election where supposedly-principled Republicans temporarily jump ship before flocking back by Election Day, along with all of the "independents" and "undecideds". If Jones isn't sitting at 50% in aggregate polling or ahead by 4-5 points consistently, he isn't going to win.

[Adam Griffin]

Why has nobody pointed out until now that even Moore and his wife have a 15-year gap between them? I didn't even think to look.

Not googling every instance right now but that seems to be roughly the same age difference that exists in all of these stories (including the new ones where the victims weren't, you know, teenagers): suggests a pattern of behavior.

[Adam Griffin]

Did I get them all? He certainly has a type; consistently somewhere between 14-18 years younger than him in all cases.

Accuser	Year	Accuser's Age	Moore's Age	Difference (Years)
Beverly Nelson	1977	16	30	14
Leigh Corfman	1979	14	32	18
Debbie Gibson	1979-1982	18	32-35	14-17
Gloria Deason	1979-1982	18	32-35	14-17
Wendy Miller	1979-1982	17*	32-35	14-17
Kelly Harrison	1982	17	34	17
Tina Johnson	1991	28	44	16

BONUS ROUND:

Wife	Year Married	Wife's Age	Moore's Age	Difference (Years)
Kayla Moore	1984	23	38	14

*Started approaching her at 14, started asking on dates at 16

[Adam Griffin]

Did you guys not read it?
He said that it said D.A when he was not a DA.
I do believe it’s BS That yearbook is probably a fake,

With all that being said while I want/support Moore he should drop out I don’t want to lose a safe senate seat!

Maybe.

Maybe he was lying to impress those girls so that he could impress them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tQG15iM1UI

[Adam Griffin]

Moore married his wife when she was 24, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't have contact with her well before that. With that said, even if he didn't meet her until after she was of age, it doesn't change the fact that he abused other girls.

[Adam Griffin]

ok EnglishPete you're going to have to substantially reduce that signature size

What's even dumber is that the idiot didn't bother doing a Google Image search for the actual yearbook photo from the press conference:

[Adam Griffin]

ok EnglishPete you're going to have to substantially reduce that signature size

What's even dumber is that the idiot didn't bother doing a Google Image search for the actual yearbook photo from the press conference:

Why does the Roy look like Ray?

Oh dear lord

[Adam Griffin]

Here's a high resolution photo - JUST IN CASE WE HAVE ANY MORE TRUTHERS AFOOT (right-click and open in new tab)

[Adam Griffin]

Why does the Roy look like Ray?

Have you just never seen anyone's signature before? Mine makes it look like my name is "RN Parsnip." (For the record, that is not my name.)

And mine looks like "Adam Smith" (LOL); mainly because I'm lazy/Gs are BS in cursive and I have a habit of "crossing my Is" with one stroke rather than dotting.

[Adam Griffin]

"Oh wow - a GOP Governor decided not to engage in a blatantly unconstitutional overthrow of government and the voting process! Huge FF!"

[Adam Griffin]

The biggest mistake Jones has made so far is coming out as pro-choice, even Joe Donnelly and Joe Manchin pull it off pretty well. The pic of him and Hillary is pretty bad as well. I kind of wish Sue Bell Cobb ran for Senate instead of Governor.

Yeah, my hopes have gone down quite a bit. I saw some of the nutters were running an ad with Jones's pro-choice stance and my first thought was "well, the lead was nice while it lasted."

They've (I'm assuming it's The Solution Fund PAC) spent $26,000 on that ad buy, BTW - not really enough to counter Jones' advertising or matter in the slightest. Jones has had a >10:1 ad advantage for quite some time now, even before the scandal.

[Adam Griffin]

Yeah, goddamn, like 2/3 of this thread has been a series of 2 or more posters headlocked in arguments over tangential minutiae or stuff that just doesn't have anything to do with the election whatsoever.

[Adam Griffin]

Maybe if Jones loses by a point or two, a "pro-life" candidate in lieu of him could have pulled it off, but otherwise...

People gotta realize that in the South, there are a lot of people who concern-troll and claim they'd vote Democrat if it weren't for abortion...but they're almost all full of s[inks]t. There's practically no crossover potential in anybody who lists "abortion" as the first reason as to why they don't vote Democratic; just a popular talking point for Generic Southrons to express disgust toward Democrats.

Second amendment issues are far more powerful and actually can make or break you with a sizeable segment of both Republican-leaning and Democratic-leaning rural Southern voters. That's where somebody like Jones (and somebody like JBE, for that matter) can make inward roads.