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Adam Griffin
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« on: October 23, 2017, 08:13:17 PM »

Guys, most of you can't point a finger here without looking like hypocrites yourselves: all we have to do is look at the past year and two Presidents as examples of how little the Federalist Party stands for anything.

As far as my actions, I just figured I'd:

  • a) Do what the Federalists wouldn't do: vote for a conservative choice, in order to even the playing field
or
  • b) Draw inspiration from the Federalists, and vote for a candidate completely out-of-line with my purported principles in the new world they've created

Feel free to pick from either narrative; whichever one is the best!

In all seriousness, somebody's margin of victory ended up being smaller either way. Sometimes we're all faced with no-win scenarios and STV may very well end up being our only source of amusement.

Anyway, nobody "threw Truman under the bus" or whatever, as he and many others were completely aware of what was going on at all times and long before Sunday, for that matter. We made a strategic decision to abdicate our presence in the final round. Plenty of low-energy types like Leinad who are prisoners in their own party now won't understand, but that's OK.

I'm just grateful that I've been back for a grand total of 2 days and have already sucked all of the oxygen out of the room - great honer! Nobody's even talking about the Illegitimate President's re-election with the smallest share of voter support (29%) since Dissolution!

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Adam Griffin
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 09:37:06 PM »

I have to wonder what happened to the venerable Labor turnout machine, which was working not less a month ago in the Fremont special election. Fthagn's support was equal to 75% of the Federalists' membership, while Truman barely garnered the equivalent of 40% of Labor members. If Adam has been stepping back one must wonder just how reliant the party has been on his own personal dynamism relative to that of its internal institutions...

I haven't been involved with turnout in a very long time in any regular capacity. I just walked into the job (and/or a veritable poop-show) this weekend. Turning a big ship that quickly is nigh impossible. Nevertheless, I wouldn't say turnout in any one election is an indicator of much - if, as you pointed out, turnout was good for Labor last month or in recent elections, then it wasn't because of/reliant on me, so obviously the Party still functions. The Federalists too can attest to this: they're probably proud of their 67% turnout or so in this weekend's election, but by historical standards, that is still absolutely embarrassing in terms of what is possible.

Which brings us back to the subject of trends, such as the Deeply Disturbing Drop in civic engagement among registered voters ever since the DFW Cult appeared on the scene early this year. When one of the major parties completely abdicates any ideological role in the game's trajectory and succeeds at taking over, people stop caring about the outcome. The Feds always hated me for this because they felt they couldn't win if they stood for principles. I'm frankly surprised it took them this long to follow the path of many others who walked in the same shoes.

But yeah...I'm not going to be ball-busted by hypocrites for doing once (for some strategic amusement) exactly what they have been doing - willingly and purposefully - to the game and to Labor for a long, long time. Ultimately, DFW, Fhtagn - and now apparently most of the rank-and-file Federalists - are nothing more than sad, ideologically-void personality cultists driven by victory and (now once again!) their hatred of me.

Much like the Liberals, Progressive Union and the several others that have strolled this pathway, for the game to be healthy, one of two things must happen: the Feds must be reformed, or they must be destroyed to give way for a genuine conservative alternative to take their place.
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Adam Griffin
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E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2017, 10:50:55 PM »


A lot of talk about ideology from someone who has proven they don't give even the slightest sh*t about it.

Is there anyone left who actually values anything you have to say anymore? I mean, your own Vice Chair admitted that you were only elected Labor Chair out of desperation, not because anyone wants you.

Let me offer you a little piece of advice if you want anyone to actually take you seriously: stop talking and get over this unhealthy obsession with me, you're just embarrassing yourself.

I'd really love it if - as the first female President - you abandoned the stereotypes and stopped trying to portray yourself as some kind of "victim" of "obsession" or whatever, especially when it's been you who has been riding coat-tails all the way to the top and telling others what they want to hear.

Trust, those who know me will tell you that you're just another proverbial name on my crap-list of deceitful sociopathic cretins who have harmed the game over the years, and nothing more.



And as far as people winning, you just scored the smallest share of votes from the electorate of any President in living memory. Don't flatter yourself too much, either. Seventy percent of the game didn't want you.
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Adam Griffin
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2017, 11:26:56 PM »

     X% of the electorate not voting for the winner is a lousy non-argument IRL, and it is even worse in Atlasia when a good chunk is always dropping off due to not voting. What's more, attrition typically ramps up when Atlasia gets particularly large and the population rightsizes.

It's actually a very good metric considering the only remotely comparable examples were close-fought races. Y'all have killed participation in this game: own it.
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Adam Griffin
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2017, 11:27:37 PM »


PLEASE STOP YOUR OBSESSION WITH ME
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Adam Griffin
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E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 03:36:09 PM »

    X% of the electorate not voting for the winner is a lousy non-argument IRL, and it is even worse in Atlasia when a good chunk is always dropping off due to not voting. What's more, attrition typically ramps up when Atlasia gets particularly large and the population rightsizes.

It's actually a very good metric considering the only remotely comparable examples were close-fought races. Y'all have killed participation in this game: own it.

     In other words races where the winner ended up close to 50% of the vote...like fhtagn did this time. Keep spinning.

Equating "close to 50%" with "winning by a vote or two" is disingenuous and you know it. She won by 25 points in the round in which she was elected and would have won in the next round by a much heftier margin than any one else in recent years who has carried anything less than 35% of the electorate (of which there are few).
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Adam Griffin
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2017, 03:06:36 AM »

Maybe the left will be relegated to the status the right was here from 2013-2016. Hopefully the next time Labor wins an election it will be when they become a centrist party. 

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