Deeply disturbing

[Adam Griffin]

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EDIT: Also, while we're at it/since my previous screencap of it was deleted, Tmth is still playing the game from behind the scenes despite leaving in such supposedly dramatic fashion, including messaging James during last weekend's election and turning out other players to vote. Apparently we can't post PMs from other forums here either, lol. It's only relevant in the sense that the Federalists just can't keep from engaging in PM shenanigans...but also hilarious since according to some, his little facade where he pretended to quit was actually me driving him away from the game. Those close to me know that I maintained from the get-go that it was all an act. See you in a couple of months, Tmth!

[Adam Griffin]

What's Deeply Disturbing is you lot lying to poor Jimmie and calling Blair a "Moderate"

Except that that is the truth (maybe not from your reactionary perspective) and what you did was/is illegal.

[Adam Griffin]

What's Deeply Disturbing is you lot lying to poor Jimmie and calling Blair a "Moderate"

Except that that is the truth (maybe not from your reactionary perspective) and what you did was/is illegal.

So asking someone why they voted a certain way and telling them that PM's are a lie is illegal then?

Voter intimidation is illegal. Shame on you for trying to deflect while simultaneously lying.

[Adam Griffin]

to be fair, blair did state to me that he wants atlasia to be fun instead of serious. I did feel pressure to switch my vote to yankee.

That is all I want to say until I am cooled off.

Expect at least 57 incoming PMs and FB messages within the next 5 minutes demanding that you delete this.

RIP

[Adam Griffin]

(rolls eyes) I did not intimidate anyone, I asked Jimmie why he voted for Blair when he had voted for Yankee in the first round, he said it was because *someone* told him that Blair was a moderate and would make the game funner, I gave my counterpoint and he decided to change his vote, so idiotic. I'm sure you're aware idiotic charges like these can get people BANNED from the game, so go ahead Griffin, push on, keep using your f****** disgusting tactics on me.

Obviously, several of you were coordinating in Fed chat and sending him messages in the span of just a couple of minutes in an attempt to persuade him to change his vote, based on the conversation I've seen. The claims of intimidation were not my words. I'm just speaking out on the matter, as I obviously would when a member of my own party is the target of such a coordinated attack.

[Adam Griffin]

Actually it all happened in #southernchat with members of your own party within the chat, I would think they would bring something up as well. You have absolutely no proof that I intimidated anyone and I would fight against such charges VERY strongly if such charges were to advance.

Fed chat, Southern chat, #atlasforum, or wherever: the broader point wasn't about the specific room in which it happened, obviously. As far as evidence goes: I mean, you've essentially admitted doing it, so...?

Truman, how would I bully him into voting for Jimmie? Honestly? He has no elected positions, he's not in the Federalists, how would I punish him? Call him an Idiot? Is that it?

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Invaligate

[Adam Griffin]

Private voting is the dumbest idea out there. I used to think differently. This is an elections simulator first and foremost. People want to see the votes as they come in and they want to strategize their ballots. They want to count the process and make predictions. Participation in the elections process would fall off a cliff under such a scheme.

I do admire the pivot, though: Feds trying to frame the narrative as "why won't Labor endorse private voting?". Only one party is having any trouble restraining itself from harassment and illegal activities during elections. I say we make the Federalist Party private so nobody in the game has to see them. Nice attempt by Yankee at false equivalence there, though!

[Adam Griffin]

I do admire the pivot, though: Feds trying to frame the narrative as "why won't Labor endorse private voting?". Only one party is having any trouble restraining itself from harassment and illegal activities during elections. I say we make the Federalist Party private so nobody in the game has to see them. Nice attempt by Yankee at false equivalence there, though!

I suppose it was the invisible man that gave Jimmie flak over last weekend then.

1) What y'all did is illegal

2) What y'all did is immoral, especially considering he's not in your party; two more minutes of harassment and it would have invalidated his ballot, something that very well may have been the intent if changing preference wasn't achieved

3) Any comments made to him by Labor were after the election, not during the window for successfully (and illegally) convincing someone to edit a ballot

4) If this is what you define as "flak", then bless your heart. I can't wait to hear about what other EARTH-SHATTERING comments from other party members supposedly meet that criteria

[Adam Griffin]

Sorry, guys, this thread is not about crazy private voting schemes or whatever other crazy insinuations of activity you're willing to make up. This thread is about the very illegal activity of multiple Yankee supporters and Federalist leaders to disenfranchise and intimidate someone who was not in the position to be on the receiving end of a barrage of harassing and threatening messages across multiple mediums.

It's very sad that instead of just saying "we're sorry" or "I don't condone this behavior", you instead want to be "BUT LABOR", despite the fact that there is no comparison to be made here. At all. Take some personal responsibility and care for your lives, for once.

[Adam Griffin]

Are you saying that the rumors of bribery are baseless, Mr. Griffin?

The only offer not conditional on the legality of the act that I recall seeing recently was shortly after the polls closed last weekend, where I was propositioned with the following:

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[Adam Griffin]

Sorry, guys, this thread is not about crazy private voting schemes or whatever other crazy insinuations of activity you're willing to make up. This thread is about the very illegal activity of multiple Yankee supporters and Federalist leaders to disenfranchise and intimidate someone who was not in the position to be on the receiving end of a barrage of harassing and threatening messages across multiple mediums.

It's very sad that instead of just saying "we're sorry" or "I don't condone this behavior", you instead want to be "BUT LABOR", despite the fact that there is no comparison to be made here. At all. Take some personal responsibility and care for your lives, for once.

Perhaps the eyesight is failing you for that "decade" of being in Atlasia.

Look, I come on here at midnight after a hard day at work. I see you making accusations, I see allegations of it being across multiple mediums. I said first post, ADAM. FIRST FING POST after I got in here." As policy, I do not approve of contacting voters after they voted". End of conversation.

I don't need to make up allegations. You forget, I was with you in #Atlasforum in October 2015. I know what goes on in there, and I would not be surprised if it still does.

I am sick and tired of you going on #Atlasforum saying whatever you need to get Blair elected. Whether it be questioning trying to benefit from people questioning my mental stability, or gloating about some nasty thing you did in the past to gain street cred.

I don't approve of what happened here today, but I also condemn with every damn bone in my body the crap you and your thugs have done to me since October 1st. And I am not going to take it lying down anymore.

Take your equivalency bs and shove it sideways.

You were quoting Xahar earlier, dum-dum: not me.

[Adam Griffin]

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Funny. That's not what my sources tell me.

http://i.imgur.com/EOiRyg0.png

Nay, sir. Either you're lying or someone is impersonating our Former President Griffin.

Since you are a honorable man, we should obviously corral the scalawag that would besmirch your name.

Nice try, you silly boi



I'm loving these false equivalences: keep them coming! Regardless of any accusations against me, I'm not disenfranchising and harassing other voters via PM for how they voted. Literally nothing was changed by my behavior in this election or the previous one, as clearly evidenced. The Feds' disenfranchisement and intimidation, however, may be the deciding vote...

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Thank you for coming clean, Adam. I for one am rather unimpressed that you see bribery as an effective part of the Laborite tool chest.

We can't all harass voters outside our parties to the point of harm over their ballots cast!