Hillary Willing to Work with Sanders on Shaping Democratic Platform

[Adam Griffin]

As far as who "won" goes, you know...it's actually possible for everyone to "win" based on their own criteria.

Sanders didn't enter the race expecting to be able to win the nomination. This should be very obvious - not only from his past comments, but also from tragic missteps in the form of taking certain attacks/strategy off the table until it was too late for them to derail Clinton. He entered to push Clinton to the left and to hopefully have influence on the Democratic Party platform and message. By that measurement - his measurement - he not only "won", but probably exceeded even his own expectations.

Clinton entered the race to win the Democratic nomination. This also is very obvious. By that measurement - her measurement - she "won" in the way she wanted to as well.

[Adam Griffin]

As far as who "won" goes, you know...it's actually possible for everyone to "win" based on their own criteria.

Sanders didn't enter the race expecting to be able to win the nomination. This should be very obvious - not only from his past comments, but also from tragic missteps in the form of taking certain attacks/strategy off the table until it was too late for them to derail Clinton. He entered to push Clinton to the left and to hopefully have influence on the Democratic Party platform and message. By that measurement - his measurement - he not only "won", but probably exceeded even his own expectations.

Clinton entered the race to win the Democratic nomination. This also is very obvious. By that measurement - her measurement - she won in the way she wanted to as well.

Bernie was't running to pressure Hillary to the left. Everyone knows that wouldn't last. Bernie was running to win. He just likes a issue based campaign rather than a negative one. Obviously he could have hammered the top secret emails, Saudi arms being used to killed Shia civilians after they gave money to the Clinton Foundation, voting against a diplomatic solution in Iraq

No - if he was running to win, then he wouldn't have taken the emails and corruption claims off the table until polling showed he had a shot. Those are issues, as he and his campaign have said as of late. They didn't want to damage the inevitable nominee in the beginning. When winning became viable, they acted just like any other campaign.

[Adam Griffin]

For the last time, Sanders was not running to win, unless you legitimately assumed he jumped into the race polling at 1% expecting to be able to win from the very beginning.

In 2014, Bernie said that he was thinking of running for President, but only if he could win. He was definitely not interested in being another Dennis Kucinch.

Nobody jumps into the race and proclaims publicly, "I'm in it to lose it!".

[Adam Griffin]

For the last time, Sanders was not running to win, unless you legitimately assumed he jumped into the race polling at 1% expecting to be able to win from the very beginning.

In 2014, Bernie said that he was thinking of running for President, but only if he could win. He was definitely not interested in being another Dennis Kucinch.

Nobody jumps into the race and proclaims publicly, "I'm in it to lose it!".

Actually he said "People should not underestimate me" when he announced.

Oh, wow: a candidate made an overly-optimistic statement regarding their chances for winning the nomination? Well then! It must be an absolutely true statement regarding belief of winning the nomination, and not indicative of anything else or misleading at all!

[Adam Griffin]

As far as who "won" goes, you know...it's actually possible for everyone to "win" based on their own criteria.

Sanders didn't enter the race expecting to be able to win the nomination. This should be very obvious - not only from his past comments, but also from tragic missteps in the form of taking certain attacks/strategy off the table until it was too late for them to derail Clinton. He entered to push Clinton to the left and to hopefully have influence on the Democratic Party platform and message. By that measurement - his measurement - he not only "won", but probably exceeded even his own expectations.

Clinton entered the race to win the Democratic nomination. This also is very obvious. By that measurement - her measurement - she won in the way she wanted to as well.

Bernie was't running to pressure Hillary to the left. Everyone knows that wouldn't last. Bernie was running to win. He just likes a issue based campaign rather than a negative one. Obviously he could have hammered the top secret emails, Saudi arms being used to killed Shia civilians after they gave money to the Clinton Foundation, voting against a diplomatic solution in Iraq

No - if he was running to win, then he wouldn't have taken the emails and corruption claims off the table until polling showed he had a shot. Those are issues, as he and his campaign have said as of late. They didn't want to damage the inevitable nominee in the beginning. When winning became viable, they acted just like any other campaign.

Didn't he start using those lines only after March 15th though? Which was when the contest essentially ended. His peak chance of victory was post NH/pre NV.

Well, when I said "corruption", I meant it in a general and broader sense: he began really hitting her on Wall Street in general when he had his first little spike in polling in early-to-mid fall, and on Goldman Sachs speeches right before IA (I think? Maybe it was right after IA). January was when he really starting tapping her. He never really hit her on the emails, and frankly, he couldn't after he said it was a non-issue.

[Adam Griffin]

As far as who "won" goes, you know...it's actually possible for everyone to "win" based on their own criteria.

Sanders didn't enter the race expecting to be able to win the nomination. This should be very obvious - not only from his past comments, but also from tragic missteps in the form of taking certain attacks/strategy off the table until it was too late for them to derail Clinton. He entered to push Clinton to the left and to hopefully have influence on the Democratic Party platform and message. By that measurement - his measurement - he not only "won", but probably exceeded even his own expectations.

Clinton entered the race to win the Democratic nomination. This also is very obvious. By that measurement - her measurement - she won in the way she wanted to as well.

Bernie was't running to pressure Hillary to the left. Everyone knows that wouldn't last. Bernie was running to win. He just likes a issue based campaign rather than a negative one. Obviously he could have hammered the top secret emails, Saudi arms being used to killed Shia civilians after they gave money to the Clinton Foundation, voting against a diplomatic solution in Iraq

No - if he was running to win, then he wouldn't have taken the emails and corruption claims off the table until polling showed he had a shot. Those are issues, as he and his campaign have said as of late. They didn't want to damage the inevitable nominee in the beginning. When winning became viable, they acted just like any other campaign.

Didn't he start using those lines only after March 15th though? Which was when the contest essentially ended. His peak chance of victory was post NH/pre NV.

Well, when I said "corruption", I meant it in a general and broader sense: he began really hitting her on Wall Street in general when he had his first little spike in polling in early-to-mid fall, and on Goldman Sachs speeches right before IA (I think? Maybe it was right after IA). January was when he really starting tapping her. He never really hit her on the emails, and frankly, he couldn't after he said it was a non-issue.

He didn't say it was a non issue. He said he was sick of hearing about them, and that it was up to the FBI.

Yeah...when you say that you're not going to engage on an issue in a campaign, you're saying it's a non-issue in the only context that matters...