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Adam Griffin
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« on: November 07, 2015, 09:53:19 PM »

Yesterday evening, given to me by someone who doesn't give a sh**t about any of this (this particular portion truncated/shortened for posterity and identity):

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This evening, it gets even better!

(Fun and insulting parts in bold but there's plenty of good stuff in between)

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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2015, 09:54:00 PM »

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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2015, 10:18:52 PM »

Why did you bold me talking about Classic Conservative having a beard?

In the middle of something important/fun; too lazy to format it out
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2015, 01:07:54 AM »

In the words of Talleyrand, I'm going to be "concise" about two or three points here:

Besides the obvious point that finding a "mole" to copy and paste peoples' conversation on a different website and then post it in this place to try to stir up some s**t is for one's own defices is both childish (like seriously are we still in middle school?) and highly annoying, I'm disappointed that some of my better jokes weren't highlighted.

I guess this is going to be one of the IRC "narratives" going forward since I heard it in there yesterday, but contrary to popular belief, I don't go around "finding 'moles'" to give me information about things said in there. Almost always, people come to me in order to alert me about things that are said that apply either to me or the game in a significant way. Very rarely (as was the case when I received the first batch of info published here, which was very vague), I will ask around in order to try to find verbatim descriptions. However, those rare occasions occur only because something was given to me without me asking in the first place.

When you've been the leader of the left for years, something funny happens. People actually come to you and provide you with information without the need to scrounge for it. Contrary to what some might believe, a lot of people actually like me. It's the same dynamic as when many current and former Laborites have been kicked and banned in IRC; they message me and ask me to help get them unbanned. Plenty of the IRC regulars know this is the case, for there have been multiple times in the past in which something has been said about me (Atlasia-related and otherwise) and I pop into that chat-room within 5 minutes to confront them about it. This is because there are many people who proactively tell me what's going on in there. Not to be egotistical, but I am usually far too important of an Atlasian personality to have to grind for intel or ask people to be listening all of the time!

Several things here, and I'm going to be very concise about it.

1.  There are definitely things that Adam Griffin has stated about individuals there or via PM, or the Federalists have said on their forum which would easily pale this stuff.

2. Griffin's whole "I'm so classy" thing has once again proven to be a joke. He claimed he wouldn't withdraw BK's nomination, yet sabotaged him behind the scenes and lobbied people to vote against him.

Damn straight - and for you as well. I literally ran a campaign platform (while winning 1/4 of the conservative vote !!!) on being a hard-ass and promising to rat-fyck anyone who tried to blow up the game or grind its gears to a halt. I don't think there are many people who have misconceptions about the fact that I'm an asshole - can the same be said for you?

With regards to BK, I specifically told him from the beginning what I planned to do - that I would oppose his nomination but that I wasn't sure what I'd do about pulling the nomination (I later told him that I wouldn't pull it, because he's my friend). It wasn't some sort of covert ambush or whatever you'd like to think or describe it as. Also, apparently - and he told me I said this; I don't recall saying it - days or weeks before the slot even opened, I told him that I wouldn't appoint him to the SC in a hypothetical situation for some of the reasons others later expressed. I've also expressed similar concerns to him on various occasions going back months and years, so this is nothing new and he knows it.

With such conflicting emotions, I believed as my friend he deserved the chance to be considered by the Senate and to have the opportunity to oppose me opposing him. I never claimed it was classy - but it was the most honorable thing I could do (being honest with him upfront, not automatically revoking his nomination once I swore in). If it's not good enough for people like you, then I really don't give a sh!t.
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2015, 01:34:42 AM »

Oh, and just as an addendum - since I was just having a conversation in regards to it - the faux outrage coming from some who always and still want to act as if "omg leaking IRC logs is immoral and a bridge too far" need only be reminded that they were the very same ones who decided to leak them to the forum to get Labor Party members banned from the game and to make them admissible in court. I'm drawing a blank at the moment, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the first time it had happened, either. I used to hold the same opinions, until leaks were repetitively used to attack my friends and I. So yeah, climb off of your high horses.

I didn't open the can o' worms. This is why we can't have nice things.
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