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Adam Griffin
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E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« on: March 31, 2014, 09:39:51 PM »

Did the Party become a "corrupt establishment party machine" as well as "big and rotten" in the past two weeks, between the time you told me you were going to run under its banner for Senate again and today? Roll Eyes

And to think I actually defended the notion of you returning to the Senate...
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Adam Griffin
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2014, 08:00:50 AM »

Did the Party become a "corrupt establishment party machine" as well as "big and rotten" in the past two weeks, between the time you told me you were going to run under its banner for Senate again and today? Roll Eyes

And to think I actually defended the notion of you returning to the Senate...

I fully admit that part of the final impetus for splitting was a (perceived) personal snub

From Alfred or from myself? I hope it wasn't because we didn't run you in the special...not running you in the special =/= not going to run you in the regular at-large. You simply couldn't win a one-seat national race.
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Adam Griffin
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 12:24:28 AM »

I always wondered when Labor would suffer a split.

The answer is, "never". Tongue

Considering the nature of the party that I inherited, I am honestly quite amazed at how we never have. Instead, we've had a consistent in and out flow of members that has left our membership numbers quite static over the past year or so. In just the past two months, we've had somewhere around a dozen members leave the party - yet our membership is larger than it was prior. Since the far-left is so splintery by nature, this flow I think is healthy and prevents there from being any serious schism from becoming an issue.

The Federalists, on the other hand, try to suppress the same problems due to that ever-persistent, self-defeating attitude of "we can't lose anyone and/or we don't win". That I think (and I could be totally wrong about the dynamic within that party) allows issues to become larger than they should be and results in either the occasional schism (like the D-Rs) or creates cliques within the party that vie for power and influence with one another. The only time I can ever remember there being any sort of divide within Labor was during the summer of last year, when the newly-defunct Liberal Party's members joined.
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Adam Griffin
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Posts: 20,092
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2014, 02:51:20 AM »

I always wondered when Labor would suffer a split.

The answer is, "never". Tongue

Considering the nature of the party that I inherited, I am honestly quite amazed at how we never have. Instead, we've had a consistent in and out flow of members that has left our membership numbers quite static over the past year or so. In just the past two months, we've had somewhere around a dozen members leave the party - yet our membership is larger than it was prior. Since the far-left is so splintery by nature, this flow I think is healthy and prevents there from being any serious schism from becoming an issue.

The Federalists, on the other hand, try to suppress the same problems due to that ever-persistent, self-defeating attitude of "we can't lose anyone and/or we don't win". That I think (and I could be totally wrong about the dynamic within that party) allows issues to become larger than they should be and results in either the occasional schism (like the D-Rs) or creates cliques within the party that vie for power and influence with one another. The only time I can ever remember there being any sort of divide within Labor was during the summer of last year, when the newly-defunct Liberal Party's members joined.

D-Rs are not a schism of the Feds.  The previously Fed members joined after the D-Rs were already established.  And it wasn't any fault of the Feds that they did - it was just that we were so awesome


Whoops. That's why I prefaced the paragraph with not being sure; I think I may have been gone when all of that happened? Everything is so fuzzy these days.

On an unrelated subject, if I were right, I'd hope that the next party would be called the Right Back. Tongue
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