Cris Survey National HQ - Denver, CO

[Adam Griffin]

I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

Stop calling yourselves 'leftist' and 'progressive' - you all clearly are not. It's nothing more than the latest reincarnate of "Super duper centrist, we want to broker power because we're just as powerhungry as everyone else and feel slighted by some other party" Party, so start calling yourselves that. Grow up, admit that you guys lost the battle for the left and assimilate if you are actual leftists. Labor is clearly the most superior party in this game, and of course the haters are going to hate. You guys are grasping for straws, and the only power you have is to sink your so-called ideology and hand a victory to the right - soo 'leftist'!

61% approve of the party that seeks to abolish the minimum wage and Social Security but hides it by pretending that it stands for nothing? Wow, I guess this sample size is either skewed heavily to the right like all polls or too many have let personal issues supersede their ideological positions. None of this is new, though: the haters have been prognosticating our demises for months and months now, yet the electorate always has seems to disagree in the end. I'm sure plenty of those people will be part of this new 'leftist' party, though.

[Adam Griffin]

Haha, I take it you don't like the results, eh?

Tell me this, asshole.  Just who the fuck died and made you king?  Who gave you the right to decide who is progressive and who is not?  More people approve of the Federalist than Labor probably because they don't exist for the sole purpose of pushing an ideology.  Federalists care about governing more than riling people up or trying to alienate themselves for the sake of purity.

I did, motherfker, when I built the new left. Thankfully, I don't have to worry about its management anymore, and thankfully, you'll never have to, either.

More people "approve" of the Federalist Party because a) the Federalists always vote in mass in these polls and b) c**nts like you give them support out of one side of your mouth while attempting to cling to some semblance of "leftism" out of the other side. It's fking pathetic.

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Oh, really? The numbers aren't on our side anymore? Care to explain why Xahar is a Senator-elect and not SJoyce? Care to explain how we won the past two special at-large Senate elections? The last regional special election? The last Presidential election in which most like-minded c**nts like you spitefully voted for a guy with no experience? Nix was losing in every poll in May & June. Polnut lost to Maxwell in Senate polling. Xahar had no shot in hell and it very well appeared that 3 Federalists could have been elected in August. Yet it continues.

Don't get me wrong: there are good people in the little party you and others have formed. You, however, are a fuing opportunist that panders, placates and pretends to be some hero of the left when in reality, you are a spineless, non-ideological twirp who obviously can't be bothered to articulate any message other than "I don't like the other parties / Labor's too extreme / Labor actually has positions and stands by them". You'd do better to sum up your ideology by saying, "I want to be in control again".

At least I'm a wolf that wears its skin proudly. You're a fuing wolf in sheep's clothing, just like several others in this god-damned game who have been around far longer than I and are far more detrimental to the primary aspects of a political simulator - ideology, policy and action. It's people like you who blow smoke up the asses of people who don't know any better and actually convince them that you care about them. It's sick.

All of the sociopaths, narcissists and those who chronically friend new recruits and message them consistently for votes and loyalty in this game almost universally fall into the purview of you and the countless parties that have come before that mimic they same thing that is being constructed now: watered-down, barely-center-of-left individuals who'd rather build personal friendships with people than actually run on something of substance.

Wow. If you want to call yourselves the main leftist party, be the main leftist party. Your platform currently describes you as socialist. I have become increasingly annoyed by this hyper partisanship. There are many members of your party that are to your right, Windjammer and Talleyrand to name a few. Not to mention that TNF, one of your most prominent members, opposes the widely accepted leftist idealism of gun control. However, when someone refuses to engage in the two party system or hyper partisanship, you throw around names such as whiny, centrist, reactionary, etc. I am fed up with it. Not to mention that the Federalists, who I have also criticized for their part in the two-party system, have not behaved as reactionary as you describe them. Their leadership has endorsed progressive taxation, and their current most prominent presidential candidate has endorsed keeping social security and raising the minimum wage. I simply don't see what makes you think you have the right to choose our ideology That is our right as a party.

We are the main leftist party. We earned that title. We built our party from the ground up and stood for something, and were rewarded handsomely. We don't take kindly to panderers and people who stand for nothing in order to achieve the quick and easy victory. For far too long in this game, twatters such as the one above controlled the actions and maneuvering of the political atmosphere. This isn't real life and this isn't America. You of all people - who chronically try to recruit "disenfranchised people" from our party (how's that working for you, BTW?) - can't act all offended when we respond to your posturing and movements. Don't expect to try to snipe our members and not hear from us.

Also, you haven't been around long enough to understand the dynamics about which I speak. You're most likely in the pockets of those who truly are the problem - bet I could name at least 3 of the 5 people with whom you most frequently chat via PM.

[Adam Griffin]

I know facts are inconvenient (like when you said Gass had won the At-Large Senate race with the most votes of any candidate ever and countless other times)

I could be wrong, but you perhaps also received the second most first preferences of any Senator in a regular at-large election.

I found that in five seconds. Facts are inconvenient to me? More empty proclamations from yet another Federalist, I see.

[Adam Griffin]

How dare you insult The People's Party!

You yourself said the two-party system was here to stay. I'm just including the parties that existed in recent memory that do not fit into that dichotomy. No offense meant to you guys.

[Adam Griffin]

I wonder what Cris thinks about all this junk at his HQ.

Anyway Griffin, I can tell from the bolded red words that you don't like me and I'm willing to accept that. But I'd like to clarify something. I am not the puppet of some older player. The idea to found the Social Democratic Party was mine and mine alone.

The red wasn't aimed at you, PJ, hence the:

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Except that I actually have gotten quite a bit of legislation passed and enacted since I was elected to the Senate in June, something that I'm not quite sure you can say yourself. While you were running the Heavy Party/Moderate Hero Union, I was introducing detailed legislation on reforming Atlasia's labor code, creating a framework for legalizing controlled substances and sex work, and most recently introduced a bill filling a crucial gap in our civil rights law. Hit me up whenever you manage to get done building a kinder, gentler moderate hero party with no ideology, no credible candidates, and no chance of ever winning the Presidency and/or the Senate in this game.

Precisely. Anyone who pays at least a modest amount of attention to Senate affairs would know that TNF is perhaps the most accomplished Senator of this session (or maybe Napoleon, there's no real ranking system). Just because you don't like him or got pissy because he wanted to offer amendments to your education bill does not mean he has nothing to offer.

And since I usually don't directly jump to calling people vulgar names until a little bitch like you does it first, I'm just going to address the notion of our loss of seats and cooperation. Six was untenable and everyone knew that - four were at-large and NO PARTY EVER has won four at-large Senate seats. Polnut dropped out as the last minute - otherwise, it'd be Nap, Gass and Polnut instead of Nap, Gass and Xahar. We worked with the external cards that were dealt to us and we yet again pulled out the best case scenario.

This all ties together. Anyone who'd like to see what's been done over the past two months should bother to read the Govt board. Labor has got A LOT of things done - we governed quite well with our temporary and untenable majority.

And you're right: Labor doesn't cooperate with parties - our individuals cooperate with individuals. In every region, Labor's been at the table and most people know great Laborites. That's our party: good people. it's assholes like me that paved the way for them to get elected over moderate hero BS.

[Adam Griffin]

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I don't place much merit in individuals who abruptly resort to calling me an asshole when it comes to their evaluation of me and how it pertains to class. You pulled the same sort of nonsense with TNF just a couple of weeks ago. You clearly do my know how to separate the concepts of tact, bluntness and vulgarity - so why should I oblige you?

And the Federalists have two seats because any less and they'd be an absolute joke like they and we were in April. They could've elected SJoyce, but they knee jerked after our Election Day rounds and started pushing support to JCL. Also, I can assure you that very few would be more acutely aware of the ideological composition of the Labor Party than I, but thanks for the heads-up.