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Adam Griffin
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« on: June 25, 2013, 03:50:04 PM »
« edited: June 27, 2013, 03:42:31 AM by Gustaf »

Oh my god. This grows tiresome, but not sufficiently so to merit profanity:

There are still five regions. There are four regional governments, until or unless the Supreme Court decides otherwise.

The IDS did not invade the Pacific: its fully-constitutional defensive militia merely amassed at our borders.

Residents of the Pacific were allocated the benefits of regional citizenship within the IDS - which may or may not be constitutional based on the IDS' Constitution.

Marokai authorized a state of anarchy and an election administrator based on the then-current provisions of the Third Pacific Constitution. He had no knowledge of any ulterior plans.

Whether or not the Governor was around is irrelevant. The legislation and provisions passed were done so legally without any input from the Governor, as set forth by both the Third and Fourth Pacific Constitutions. Anyone who assumes Spamage was the duly-elected Governor of the Pacific (done so under the Third Constitution) must also admit that the Third Constitution was in fact valid and therefore no current Supreme Court case stating the contrary would be valid.

Based on the above knowledge, this would also mean that the Fourth Pacific Constitution was also valid and the only point of dispute now would be the constitutionality of the Final Constitution.

You're all idiots.
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2013, 04:06:21 PM »


Was Spamage Governor when the state of anarchy was declared?

Executive Order #29-003

The Pacific Region's Governor has undergone a severe lack of activity, and a majority of the Pacific Council is now MIA as well. This has left the government of the Pacific Region effectively non-functional, and citizen efforts to reform the region are being stymied by lack of leadership and confusion over who is to open voting booths for a variety of recall efforts.

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Pacific Constitution grants the federal government the power to declare a new elections Administrator to assist in restoring order when a state of anarchy, defined in the Constitution "as a lack of elections and/or a lack of any comprehensible regional Government."

Therefore, as the citizens of the Pacific have requested a recall of their Governor and are undergoing efforts to restore order to the Pacific government, and there is mass confusion over who is to restore order to the situation, I declare the Pacific Region as existing in a State of Anarchy, and hereby appoint Xahar, as a resident of the Pacific Region, to open and administer necessary Pacific voting booths until June 30th, 2013.



Was regarding a state of anarchy. Unless you thjnk Spamage was so awful that his tenure was indeed a state of anarchy, Xahar had no authority to open a voting booth. As you can see, the Governor never authorized that votjng booth.

Which is it?
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2013, 04:21:59 PM »
« Edited: June 25, 2013, 04:54:22 PM by GM Griffin »


Was regarding a state of anarchy. Unless you thjnk Spamage was so awful that his tenure was indeed a state of anarchy, Xahar had no authority to open a voting booth. As you can see, the Governor never authorized that votjng booth.

Which is it?

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Sorry, but my so-called "cronies" must be better at writing constitutions than yours.

You lose all legitimacy when quoting sections from a Constitution that you claim to be invalid in the first place and supposedly thought was invalid for months prior.
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 04:35:57 PM »

"Voting booth for the vacated offices"

Seems pretty clear to those with a brain or half.

Yep, offices. Plural. You must be forgetting about those three vacated Pacific Council seats.


Was regarding a state of anarchy. Unless you thjnk Spamage was so awful that his tenure was indeed a state of anarchy, Xahar had no authority to open a voting booth. As you can see, the Governor never authorized that votjng booth.

Which is it?
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2013, 04:52:49 PM »

The Fourth Constitution is an office? What?

Roll Eyes


Was regarding a state of anarchy. Unless you thjnk Spamage was so awful that his tenure was indeed a state of anarchy, Xahar had no authority to open a voting booth. As you can see, the Governor never authorized that votjng booth.

Which is it?

Certainly someone who sat upon insider knowledge of a supposedly-invalid Constitution for months and who has taken the time to file a case should be able to answer the question.
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2013, 05:06:28 PM »

Thankfully, our Court is filled with Atlasia's great legal minds and I am confident that your cronies failure will be noted.

"My cronies"? Roll Eyes I suppose we agree on the broader premise, though - fortunately, that's not to what this current discussion pertains. It pertains to how full of it you truly are.

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