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Gustaf
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« on: June 01, 2008, 10:34:36 AM »

I don't know what "considered" is supposed to mean exactly. He wouldn't be the Democratic candidate for president, of that I'm pretty sure. Without being black Clinton would have landslided the black vote against him and getting a little more among applachian whites would not have made up for it.

His chances of winning a general election in general terms would be higher though. He would obviously have been a successful politician regardless.
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2008, 11:50:00 AM »



They may have been, I don't know, but he got over 80% of the black vote in SC. Then Bill came out and played the race card, supposedly, and the blacks united behind Obama 9 to 1.

Like I said earlier, there were different reasons why he won Iowa. He will win states in which the electorate is very liberal and no blacks are in the state at all. States with whites and blacks, he does poorly among the whites.

Virginia, Maryland, CT, and DC have no blacks?  Interesting.....

Did I say that? I said he does poorly among whites in states that have a relatively large black population and well among whites when a state has no blacks at all, like Iowa. He didn't win the white vote in DC, Virginia, Maryland, and Connecticut, did he?

He won it in D.C & Virginia, tied it in CT, MD he lost it but did quite well with the white vote.

1. It's fascinating that you know how DC voted, given that I've seen no exit poll from there. Where is that information to be found? Anyway, DC's white vote...lol.

2. In Virginia he swept the white independent and Republican vote but he lost the white Democrat vote in a landslide. And that was in the midst of Hillary's absolute low-point.

3. In Connecticut he lost the white vote, albeit very, very narrowly. 9% of the CT Democratic primary vote was black. I don't know what your threshold is for considering a state to have a large black factor, but that's not incredibly high, imo.

Anyway, no way would Obama have won in the South without being black.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2008, 11:51:16 AM »

Would John McCain be considered for President had he not been a POW for years and married a rich bitch.

^^^^^^^^^^

It's interesting that the two of you consider fundamental choices and decisions in life to be comparable to what skin one is born with, but I can't agree with that view of "race" personally.
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