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Gustaf
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« on: July 18, 2016, 10:30:10 AM »

I'm not a Republican, but I side with them more often than Democrats.

I'm voting Hillary this November.

Trump is far more dangerous, and anyone who cannot see this is incredibly blind and ignorant.

Or, perhaps, you are blinded by your hatred of his style and not thinking straight about substance.


Trump's campaign has no substance.

What does the highlighted sentence really mean?  Does it mean that there's an absence of wonkishness on the part of the candidate?

Trump's campaign has LOTS of substance; substance that scares the excrement out of GOP Establishment types.  He has proposed (A) a more critical approach to Free Trade agreements, (B) a retreat from the Neocon interventionism and Nation Building in foreign policy, (C) actual enforcement of our immigration laws, (D) refocusing immigration policy to where its primary focus is the interests of the American citizenry, and (E) a reassessment of our foreign entanglements to determine if they are in the best interests of America (beginning with NATO).  These are issue positions that are not only what differentiate Trump from the Democrats; they are issues that differentiate Trump from a large bloc of Republicans as well.

Trump's campaign has the look and feel of a hostile takeover of the GOP's Presidential Nominating apparatus, and it is, but it came about through free, fair elections, and it happened because the rest of the GOP candidates had serious disagreements on some, or all, of the issues mentioned above with the other GOP candidates.  These voters didn't want a party where the name of the game was "Who's the REAL conservative?".  They wanted a party that used government to address THEIR issues and problems, not "less government, less regulation, more freedom".  The GOP had a deaf ear to all of this for years, and they got caught flat-footed by Trump.  Too bad for them.  But to say that Trump's campaign "lacks substance" is ridiculous.  Trump's campaign has more substance than any campaign in recent memory, and it has had (and will continue to have) profound policy implications for the National GOP in the future.

I don't think you understand what substance means. It doesn't mean screaming "immigration, boo, hiss", "NATO, boo, hiss" and so on.

Whenever Trump gets asked on what he will actually do, even in fairly broad terms there is...no substance. Take your points B and E for instance. What does Trump want to do? Well, he was for the Iraq war, now he pretends to be against it. He wants to give Syria to ISIS one minute, he wants a ground invasion the next minute, he wants to nuke them the 3rd minute and he wants to declare war on them the 4th minute. What, substantively, does he want? He wants to abolish NATO but he also wants to use it against ISIS.

Or take immigration. We all know he isn't actually going to build a wall or deport 11 million people because that is ridiculous and unfeasible. So what does he want? We do not know.

See, Trump just raves about things and spouts nonsense. Idiots (like you I suppose) fall for that because they don't understand how any issues work. And he's good at duping these people. But in reality he has no idea how to deal with anything.

See, it is different when people stake out ideological directions without detail. But Trump isn't really doing that. He's just throwing tantrums. Of course it'd be nice for Americans if they could enjoy all the perks of being a global super power without having to field an army. It'd be nice to eat a ton of candy and not get a tummy ache too. But you can't actually do that.

Trump's position is based on the idea that you can wave a magic wand and get all you want, no problem. And the only reason no one waves the wand is that "corrupt establishment" is being "stupid". Whenever pressed he has no idea how to accomplish the things he wants, which is why he just talks platitudes about things being great and big.

He's nothing but nonsense.
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