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  Poor conservatives, I don't get it. Righties please explain. (search mode)
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Gustaf
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« on: October 26, 2011, 05:44:25 AM »

I also think the more liberals complain about "poor people voting against their best interests", the more some poor people will vote Republican.

And the same goes for assuming nefarious motives instead of considering the issue from another's point of view (not that I've never done the same thing).

The whole 'what's the matter with Kansas' arguement is fallacious, anyway; if social issues were so unimportant, then the Democrats would have no reason not to adopt the social issues of those voting against them in order to try and advance their fiscal agenda.  The truth is, the Democratic and Republican coalitions simply appeal to different 'social issues' voters.

That's a pretty good point, actually.

I find it amusing that so many people take for granted that people "should" vote their self-interest. Maybe some people simply have values playing a part in their voting?
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Gustaf
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 04:31:36 AM »

I also think the more liberals complain about "poor people voting against their best interests", the more some poor people will vote Republican.

And the same goes for assuming nefarious motives instead of considering the issue from another's point of view (not that I've never done the same thing).

The whole 'what's the matter with Kansas' arguement is fallacious, anyway; if social issues were so unimportant, then the Democrats would have no reason not to adopt the social issues of those voting against them in order to try and advance their fiscal agenda.  The truth is, the Democratic and Republican coalitions simply appeal to different 'social issues' voters.

That's a pretty good point, actually.

I find it amusing that so many people take for granted that people "should" vote their self-interest. Maybe some people simply have values playing a part in their voting?

I think it's amusing what some people call "values."  Here are some values... I'll force a rape victim to carry her attacker's child to term, and I will slash her welfare payment so she can be destitute for 18 years while she raises the kid.  When I hear "values" voters... I stop listening.

You missed my point, I'm afraid.
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Gustaf
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 04:34:46 AM »

So it seems the two answers we have are
1. A view that forcing a specific flavor of Christianity upon everybody is more important than their own economic well-being.
2. A view that if they just keeping on doing what they've been doing, one day they will magically be rich.
And there you have it. Why a poor chooses to stay poor.

No, it goes like this:

Why do some poor people support Republicans?

Democrats: Well, poor people are stupid. Because they are stupid their only way of getting a better life is receiving money from the state and yet they won't vote for that. Also, because they're stupid, they believe in stupid things like religion. Lol at those retards.

Poor person: I think I'll vote GOP. Those Democrats seem elitist.
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