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Gustaf
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« on: December 19, 2010, 08:31:40 AM »

Both are wrong, but where did you get the fraud number.  It seems dramatically low.  Both numbers do actually.

http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/tax-evasion-costs-treasury-15-times-more-than-benefit-fraud/a378274

Obviously I don't agree morally with either benefit cheating or tax evading. But it's something to think about, especially given the British press obsession with welfare cheats.

Agreed.  I'm too lazy to look up the numbers here but I'd guess both are staggering, and probably opposite - benefit cheating outweighing tax cheating.......

Of course the oppresively high tax rate is probably largely to blame in the U.K., but it's not an excuse for fraud.

Not really. The reason so much tax evasion goes on is because of economic deregulation that the Tories decided to set out on in the 1980s. We had a 95% top rate for much of our post-war history and there wasn't as much tax evasion then (it was a much fairer rate than 50% too)

lol

That is definitely not true for any other country I've ever heard about. It doesn't make much sense either.

Anyway, apart from the fact that tax avoidance isn't really illegal, how are you going to stop it exactly? What's your solution?
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Gustaf
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2010, 05:46:55 PM »

Both are wrong, but where did you get the fraud number.  It seems dramatically low.  Both numbers do actually.

http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/tax-evasion-costs-treasury-15-times-more-than-benefit-fraud/a378274

Obviously I don't agree morally with either benefit cheating or tax evading. But it's something to think about, especially given the British press obsession with welfare cheats.

Agreed.  I'm too lazy to look up the numbers here but I'd guess both are staggering, and probably opposite - benefit cheating outweighing tax cheating.......

Of course the oppresively high tax rate is probably largely to blame in the U.K., but it's not an excuse for fraud.

Not really. The reason so much tax evasion goes on is because of economic deregulation that the Tories decided to set out on in the 1980s. We had a 95% top rate for much of our post-war history and there wasn't as much tax evasion then (it was a much fairer rate than 50% too)

lol

That is definitely not true for any other country I've ever heard about. It doesn't make much sense either.

Anyway, apart from the fact that tax avoidance isn't really illegal, how are you going to stop it exactly? What's your solution?

Every tax evader gets a date with Gustaf?  Wink  People'll be linin' up to pay then they will!

That's...a new form of personal attack. I seem to inspire some of the forum's weirdest insults. 

(Given that they're all creepy middle-aged men I'd sure hope they wouldn't want to date me)
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