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« on: August 26, 2014, 08:17:19 AM »

Averroes raised a good point in the previous energy thread about natural gas. Certainly in RL, increasing the percentage of natural gas plants decreases carbon emissions substantially. If things are different in atlasia then this bill is obviously worth supporting - but we need to know things are different.
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 08:07:16 AM »

I'd still like to hear just how much of atlasia's energy comes from coal before we pass this bill, but I suppose reinvesting the money in renewables means that this bill won't increase carbon emissions.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2014, 11:05:30 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 05:30:40 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2014, 10:55:27 AM »

The main problem, ignoring the fact that it's not exactly clear if the government owns any pipeline, is that you proposed it after the bill moved to a final vote.

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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 02:59:52 PM »

With six votes in the affirmative, three votes opposed, and one not voting, the Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act can be declared as having passed the Senate. It is now presented to the President for executive action.

Aye(s): President Pro Tempore TNF, Senator bore, Senator Cranberry, Senator Lumine, Senator Cynic, Senator Polnut
Nay(s): Senator Cassius, Senator Spiral, Senator North Carolina Yankee
Abstaining: None
Not voting: Senator JCL

You cannot disregard my motion to delay the final vote without considering my amendment. It has not passed as my motion to delay the final vote must be heard and voted upon.

This is just not true. The only thing the OSPR says about halting final votes is this:
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The power of stopping a vote is held by the President of the senate alone.
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 04:16:11 PM »

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I think this is a wise and necessary step to take. One of the things that we need in order to push green technology and green energy to the next level and beyond is an impetus. The corporate largely doesn't care about environmentally friendly measures and research because they're making money selling something that's not environmentally friendly. The problem is that it's neither sustainable nor inexhaustible, so it's time to take measures that push renewable energy to the next level. The government saying that it will not be an enabler is a good preliminary step.


I contest the final vote as I had proposed an amendment and motioned to delay a final vote. That motion to delay must be respected thus this is not worth the paper it was written upon.

"I'll huff. . . and I'll puff. . . and I'll. . ."

JCL, the procedure is so clear that I cannot imagine what's preventing you from grasping it.

1. You cannot stop a final vote to propose an amendment.

2. The PPT does not have to stop a final vote. In 18 months I've not seen it.

3. When you decided to ask that it be stopped, it had already concluded anyway.

I motioned for delay while the vote was still going on not after.

And the senate rules are such that only the President of the Senate, and no one else, can stop a vote. You do not have the power to halt the vote just by making a motion.
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