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Question: Will the GOP ever appeal to Minorities?
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phk
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« on: November 30, 2008, 12:17:48 AM »

Huckabee certainly can. A lot of my Hispanic friends liked him.
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2009, 05:50:17 PM »

Speaking of minorities, how much impact would there be if the Jewish population in the United States switched party affiliations from Democrat to Republican, based on President Obama's position regarding Jewish settlement growth on Palestinian territory? 

Jews have been trending R since 1992 or so.  GOP has gone from 10% to 25%, slowly but steadily. I wouldn't be surprised if Muslims were the reason either.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2009, 05:57:37 PM »

Speaking of minorities, how much impact would there be if the Jewish population in the United States switched party affiliations from Democrat to Republican, based on President Obama's position regarding Jewish settlement growth on Palestinian territory? 

I highly doubt the Jewish would switch parties just because of that issue. They may shift towards Republicans, but they will still be majority Democrat.

Bush & McCain both supported a more amnesty leaning plan just to get Hispanic support. Personally the GOP can get some hispanic votes, it was just almost impossible in 2008. Possibly some in Nevada & Colorado. Arizona & New Mexico I doubt it.

As President Reagan once said, Latinos are Republicans, they just don't know it yet. Not only are they religious, but, in my experience in a 20% Latino state, they tend to be entrepreneurial and self-reliant. They only become more Republican in the second and third generation Latinos, when they become middle-class and pay more taxes. By the time they reach the fourth generation, they're almost indistinguishable from whites in terms of standard of living and voting patterns.

A friend of mine put it this way. The first generation works in landscaping. The second owns a landscaping business, which allows them to send their third generation children to college.

If Republicans were more empathetic to their situations, supported a guest worker program and the like, without supporting amnesty, they could seize the majority of the Latino vote.

Kicking out people who are already here is unacceptable to Latinos. It reeks of racism frankly. As long as republicans support that they can forget about the Latino vote. Now increasing border enforcement and other common sense measures such as that aren't opposed by Latinos.

Frankly, if French-Canadians were sneaking across the northern border and illegally taking jobs from Americans, I would want to deport them as well. Amnesty is not fair to Latinos who played by the rules to enter the country.

What is racist about kicking foreigners out of the country who broke the law. Now, Latinos who qualify for a guest-worker program of some sort should be allowed to stay (I know many Republican pols don't share this view, but some do). However, the ones who went in and essentially by passed the immigration process broke the law, and giving them amnesty is a slap in the face to those who came here legally.

I know they broke the law but did they have any another choice? Do you see the local Mcdonalds or farmer sponsoring immigrants? Sure a lot of Mexicans immigrate here legally after being sponsored by family members or employers. But what if you are poor and don't have family in the United states or don't have a lot of skills? For them the only route is illegal immigration. It's not as if anyone who wants to get in the US is allowed to. You say that they by passed the immigration process, but in reality there was no immigration process for them.

Most Latinos (actually immigrants from anywhere) realize this and thus have empathy for these illegals while most Americans don't. Most of them are hard working people who had no other choice. I absolutely believe it is important that we make sure we verify who these people are and I also don't think they should be made citizens overnight. But we should at least give them the opportunity to become residents. They should follow the same route that legal immigrants do and get a green card and then citizenship (usually about a 10 year process). So they wouldn't be "cutting in line". If we follow this up by allowing low skill labor a legal avenue of coming to America and more border enforcement, we might reduce the problem somewhat.



Tbh, we should be incentivizing the automation of low-skilled labor rather than encouraging or even subsidizing it .
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