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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: April 21, 2008, 12:34:44 AM »

I have a different first round result.  Sensei has 3 first preferences, not 2.  (Sensei, Cookies and Milk, and meekermariner)  That means that Happy Warrior is eliminated before Sensei, which causes of Happy's votes to flow to Sensei, so he doesn't get eliminated in the next round either.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2008, 12:18:18 PM »


Last minute vote by Ernest preferenced Hashemite first, you second.  Both you and Sensei received 2 first preference votes; you got the benefit of Ernest's transfer keeping you in the race.


Now, now, don't understate my voting shenanigans.  If I had placed another candidate such as Willy Woz as second and then Happy Warrior as third, then Hashemite who I placed first would have won the tiebreak and Happy Warrior would have been eliminated first of those with two first preferences.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 08:55:45 PM »

I encourage all interested parties to give these numbers a look, because if there are no objections, I will certify these as official by midnight (EDT) tonight.
I'm not sure you're supposed to allocate Rocky's surplus under the terms of the law, although from a common sense point of view it certainly cannot hurt.
Actually it could have an impact.  If surpluses are not distributed until they have can have an effect on who gets eliminated.  One gets:

Round 6
9.3 - Rocky Republican [elected]
9.0 - EarlAW [elected]
8.0 - Afleitch
7.1 - ColinW
7.0 - CultureKing
6.6 - Lewis Trondheim
5.0 - Jake

Since Rocky's .3 cannot affect either who is eliminated or if anyone is elected, eliminate Jake and transfer his votes.

Round 7
9.3 - Rocky Republican [elected]
9.1 - ColinW [elected]
9.0 - EarlAW [elected]
9.0 - Afleitch [elected]
8.0 - CultureKing
7.6 - Lewis Trondheim

The total of .4 votes that could be distributed is enough to potentially invoke a tiebreaker, but Lewis would still lose it and be eliminated even if all transfered to Lewis and thus be eliminated.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 09:24:15 PM »

I have spotted an error, not that if affects the result.

Colin should have under the SoFA's count 9.1968 votes  in Round 7, not 7.1968 votes. while Culture King and Lewis should have 8.0 and 7.6677 votes respectively.

There's also a procedural error that doesn't affect the result.  The PRA specifies that if rounding is done, it should be to three decimal places, not four.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 02:46:49 PM »

I have spotted an error, not that if affects the result.

Colin should have under the SoFA's count 9.1968 votes  in Round 7, not 7.1968 votes. while Culture King and Lewis should have 8.0 and 7.6677 votes respectively.

There's also a procedural error that doesn't affect the result.  The PRA specifies that if rounding is done, it should be to three decimal places, not four.
I'd basically interprete that as "at least three".
I encourage all interested parties to give these numbers a look, because if there are no objections, I will certify these as official by midnight (EDT) tonight.
I'm not sure you're supposed to allocate Rocky's surplus under the terms of the law, although from a common sense point of view it certainly cannot hurt.
Actually it could have an impact.  If surpluses are not distributed until they have can have an effect on who gets eliminated.  One gets:

Round 6
9.3 - Rocky Republican [elected]
9.0 - EarlAW [elected]
8.0 - Afleitch
7.1 - ColinW
7.0 - CultureKing
6.6 - Lewis Trondheim
5.0 - Jake

Since Rocky's .3 cannot affect either who is eliminated or if anyone is elected, eliminate Jake and transfer his votes.

Round 7
9.3 - Rocky Republican [elected]
9.1 - ColinW [elected]
9.0 - EarlAW [elected]
9.0 - Afleitch [elected]
8.0 - CultureKing
7.6 - Lewis Trondheim

The total of .4 votes that could be distributed is enough to potentially invoke a tiebreaker, but Lewis would still lose it and be eliminated even if all transfered to Lewis and thus be eliminated.
This is different from what happens now how, exactly?


For sake of illustration, assume all of Rocky's voters had the following preferences:
Rocky Afleitch Lewis Culture

while all of Aflieitch voters (save those he gets from redistributions of Rocky) had the preferences:
Afleitch Culture Lewis.

Under the way Mr. Moderate did it the .3 of Rocky would flow to Aflietch and then when it came to redistribute Aflietch, 90/93 rds of the .3 would flow to Culture and 3/93 rd would flow to Lewis.

By delaying the distribution from Rocky the wishes of the other Afleitch voters would not affect redistrubtion and the entirety of the .3 would flow to Lewis and none of it to Culture.
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