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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: September 05, 2006, 06:33:39 PM »

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family
Triple restitution, place kids in foster care until she can care for them.

2.  Robbing a bank
10 years to life.

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional)
Triple resitution, permanent revocation of driving license.

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence)
Death

5.  Possession of Child Pornography
Only if it can be shown that they knew or should have known that it was child pornography.
If the child is past puberty, but below the age of consent, a fine unless the possessor knew or should have known that the a crime besides underage sex was involved in getting the child to participate, in which case one year in prison per item of pornography.
If the child is pre-puberty and the possessor knew or should have known, death.

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana
None

7.  1st Degree Rape
Death

8.  1st Degree Murder
Death

9.  Possession of illegal firearm
Confiscation of the unlicensed weapon, a fine, and revocation of any firearm license for a period of three years.

10.  Treason
Death
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 07:11:39 PM »


DUI should be a felony, and a homocide that results from a felony should receive the death penalty,
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2006, 08:42:41 PM »

No one is ever forced to drink and drive.  Such people have chosen to act in a reckless manner before they've taken the first drink if they haven't provided for how they will get home without driving themselves.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2006, 10:32:51 PM »

No one is ever forced to drink and drive.  Such people have chosen to act in a reckless manner before they've taken the first drink if they haven't provided for how they will get home without driving themselves.

That's not really answering my question.

How so?  Clearly the fact that if you f'up and kill somone while drinking and driving should act as a deterent to drinking and driving.  People who intenionally place themselves in a situation where they cannot think straight should be held just as responsible for the forseeable consequences of their actions as anyone else.  If they were hopefully they'd be more responsible.  I could see an exception to the death penalty for someone who got drunk at home and then while drunk decided to go for a drive and killed someone else as a result, since one could argue that the situation of drinking and driving was not forseeable before the drinking began.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2006, 11:00:35 PM »
« Edited: September 05, 2006, 11:05:11 PM by NE LG Ernest »

How so?  Clearly the fact that if you f'up and kill somone while drinking and driving should act as a deterent to drinking and driving.  People who intenionally place themselves in a situation where they cannot think straight should be held just as responsible for the forseeable consequences of their actions as anyone else.  If they were hopefully they'd be more responsible.  I could see an exception to the death penalty for someone who got drunk at home and then while drunk decided to go for a drive and killed someone else as a result, since one could argue that the situation of drinking and driving was not forseeable before the drinking began.

What is the use of killing them, considering that they are not likely to re-offend in most cases?

Considering that DUI has a high recidivism rate, saying they are not likely to re-offend is absurd.  You seem to be arging that the penalty for a DUI should be the same regardless of whether no damage occurred or the drunk kills a family of four.

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Because a person who drives to someplace else and then drinks can be presumed to have made while sober the premeditated decision to drive after drinking.  The same is unlikely to be the case for a person who drinks at home.  The inability to show premeditation for the act of driving after drinking that caused the death is why a lesser penalty would be appropriate in such cases.
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2006, 11:32:30 PM »

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family 1 year

Are you certain your real name isn't Inspector Javert intead of Captain Vlad?
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