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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: December 10, 2020, 03:31:14 AM »

Y'all have so far been approaching the problem in the wrong way; in fact you're approaching the wrong problem.

Improved public transportation isn't a end, but a means.

The desired goal is reduced use of private transportation. Improvements in telecommuting and in delivery services are far likelier to bring that about in the U.S. than improvements in public transportation. Especially delivery services. I can't imagine ever wanting to go grocery shopping by public transport.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2020, 09:52:22 AM »

When you live in a densely populated area, it is a near certainty that you will have a supermarket well within walking distance; no more than say, 10 minutes away by foot. At those distances you don't really "shop for your weekly groceries" but rather really shop for a handful of things at a time, whenever you need them.

You are putting the dogcart before the dog. For a variety of reasons, land use patterns in Europe encouraged keeping as much rural land as possible as rural rather than urban or suburban. I would posit that there wasn't any greater desire to live in densely populated areas in Europe than America, but rather that those in rural areas had both the desire and ability to keep them rural. NIMBYism is responsible for land use patterns on both sides of the pond, it just is than on one side it has served more to keep suburban areas from becoming urban while on the other it helped keep rural areas from becoming suburbs and exurbs.
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