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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: December 03, 2015, 08:10:33 AM »

Leaving aside the utterly reprehensibility of Naso's deleted comment, it is telling that the same people who just a couple days ago insisted we needed to wait for all the facts to come in on the Colorado Springs shooting before labeling it an example of anti-abortion terrorism are all too eager to label this as an example of ISIL inspired terrorism.
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 10:37:13 PM »

No one has ever damn well said there are no terrorists that are Muslims. The problem has always been there are people who generalize all Muslims for what an individual does.

At this point, it looks like this was a workplace shooting, so any argument that it was an attack by ISIS is a stretch.

Yeah just like the Fort Hood attack was "workplace violence"

The term would be yes, not "yeah". From what we know about this case, there was so sort of dispute at a holiday party and the shooter came back with a gun. That sounds like a workplace shooting, not an attack by ISIS.

It was clearly premeditated.  You think he went home, made a pipe bomb in an hour, and came back to work?  They found thousands of rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs in his house! This wasn't just a spur of the moment thing, you crazy.   And its already been confirmed he was radicalized, stop grasping at straws

As pointed out by others, why would ISIS attack a random holiday party? The idea that this was an ISIS attack doesn't add up.

While it looks doubtful that the ISIS leadership picked this target, it does appear likely that shooters were inspired by ISIS or its progenitor Al-Qaida. The level of preparation they apparently took clearly indicates that.  As Badger pointed out already, this doesn't have to be a case of either/or.  The circumstances as currently known indicate that this was likely both a radical-inspired attack and a workplace shooting.

That said, the idea that the solution to events such as this is rounding up millions of people for the acts of a few is not only morally repugnant, it's absurd to think that it would work.  We'd be doing exactly what those radicals want us to do, and in the process radicalize for them myriads both here and abroad.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2015, 04:42:17 PM »

My side has won, why should we give an inch?

BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY COUNTRY WHERE MASS SHOOTINGS BY CRAZY PEOPLE KEEP HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AGAIN EVERY FEW DAYS.
exponentially even!

The fact that you took a hyperbolic response to a troll literally tells me what caliber of intelligence I'm dealing with here.

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