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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
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« on: May 05, 2015, 01:52:49 AM »

I'm Jewish.  Would I be offended by conference of anti-Israel people who call Israel an apartheid state?  Yes.  Would I use violence or threaten violence?  No, and I would loudly condemn people who used violence.  Would I demand that they abstain from using mean words about Israel because it offends me?  No, I would just explain why I thought they were wrong.  I wouldn't be a baby who demands that other people censor themselves. 

Being Jewish and hearing someone call Israel an apartheid state isn't really an appropriate comparison.

Suppose it's the year 1950 (it would be fair to say the situation of Muslims in America today is comparable to that of Jews in America in 1950 -- not openly and brazenly attacked and discriminated against, but certainly subject to quiet, subtle, pervasive bigotry). Imagine a group of WASPs who think the establishment of the State of Israel was a harbinger of Jewish world domination and that they have put on a convention featuring, among other things: posters and signage depicting Jews as grotesque caricatures (huge hooked noses, gnarled teeth, bags of gold coins on their belts), and that they are raising money to send a delegation to Jerusalem to throw slices of ham and whole lobsters all over the Wailing Wall. I don't think there would be a shooting, but I seriously doubt Jews who heard about it or witnessed it would just shrug and say, "Well it is free speech."

It'd be far likelier those bigots would point to the establishment of the State of Israel was a step to the advent of the Antichrist prior to the Second Coming.  They'd also likely have bags of thirty silver coins rather than gold in their caricatures.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2015, 10:08:49 AM »

oh, and a good guy with a gun prevented a massacre.  Again.
But not some random good guy, but one of multiple off-duty cops hired to provide security for an event the organizer knew had a high likelihood of trouble of some sort happening.  If anything this incident is a blow to the idea that everybody and his uncle should be carrying just in case.

The South Carolina House passed a bill this year that thankfully looks to die in the Senate that would have allowed unlimited concealed carry without a permit.  Why is it that gun nuts never seem to remember the well-regulated part of the Second Amendment?

Granted, trying to turn regulation into a de facto ban is wrong, and thankfully SCOTUS has overturned such bans, but the other extreme is just as wrong.
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