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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: October 03, 2014, 12:53:45 AM »

I get so tired of people clutching at straws trying to find remotely modern examples of Christian mass-murder

The reason for the lack good modern examples is that exterminationist ideologies, whatever their supposed foundation, generally require a sense on the part of their adherents that they ought to be having a better material life now, but someone outside their group is denying them their rightful due and enjoying the benefits that should be theirs.  By and large, Christians today can't really point to another religious group that is doing better than they are, regardless of the reason, so exterminationism isn't going to attract Christians today.
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 10:53:20 PM »

In the Middle East Islam became markedly more reactionary and narrowminded in the 18th century and AFAIK the reason exactly why this happened is not clear.

As I pointed out earlier, such tendencies generally happen in populations who feel they aren't getting their fair shake.  The War of the Holy League at the end of the 17th century marks the start of a long period of decline for the Islamic world.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2014, 05:02:27 PM »

In the Middle East Islam became markedly more reactionary and narrowminded in the 18th century and AFAIK the reason exactly why this happened is not clear.

As I pointed out earlier, such tendencies generally happen in populations who feel they aren't getting their fair shake.  The War of the Holy League at the end of the 17th century marks the start of a long period of decline for the Islamic world.

That's a factor, but too simplistic and too Eurocentric/Mediterranean. Decline of a Turkish great power doesn't explain religious changes among Arabs and Persians. Many living outside the Ottoman Empire.

And yet they too suffered a decline which dates from around that period.  The Ottoman decline is merely the most notable example of Islamic decline.  It is far from the only one.
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