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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: June 15, 2014, 08:45:44 PM »

Inaccurate thread title.  Late term abortion was already basically outlawed there, as it is in most and possibly all states.  The bill kept the exception to the ban if a mother's life is at risk or to prevent irreversible physical impairment of a mother's major bodily function. All this bill did was remove the vague indefinable exception of allowing it because of psychological harm to the mother and add to the 24-week standard a standard of that the doctor has to determine that the child would not be viable if taken from the womb intact.

Really, the only reason I can see to oppose the bill is not if you are pro-choice, but because you are pro-abortion.
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2014, 04:44:54 AM »

Viruses are not the only ambiguity. Virions, prions, single-celled amoeba, and certain fungi all share traits with both living and inert matter.

Obviously, semen, eggs, etc. are 'more alive' than these. But to imbue these, and the human versions of them alone, with magic traits is arbitrary.
All definitions are by definition arbitrary.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2014, 05:50:43 AM »

Inaccurate thread title.  Late term abortion was already basically outlawed there, as it is in most and possibly all states.  The bill kept the exception to the ban if a mother's life is at risk or to prevent irreversible physical impairment of a mother's major bodily function. All this bill did was remove the vague indefinable exception of allowing it because of psychological harm to the mother and add to the 24-week standard a standard of that the doctor has to determine that the child would not be viable if taken from the womb intact.

Really, the only reason I can see to oppose the bill is not if you are pro-choice, but because you are pro-abortion.

I'm pro-choice and I would oppose this on the grounds that psychological risk should be legal grounds for termination.

Psychological risk that could affect the physical health of the mother should still be considered under the provisions allowing for late term abortions where the physical health is affected.  Once the fetus reaches the point of viability, the primary focus must be upon the health of the fetus and any focus upon the mother must be secondary.  In weighing the psychological risk of the mother versus the death of the unborn child at such a late date, where the mother has had plenty of time to undergo an abortion because of psychological risk before the fetus reached viability, I cannot see where allowing such an unborn child to be killed is at all moral or otherwise desirable.
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