It's getting uglier

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And some of you still think they hate us because of our "freedoms".

Yeah, I'm glad some of them didn't hate us (civilians and soldiers) before we invaded Iraq.

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Yay, the blame America first crowd is back!

So, raping prisoners is apropos to human dignity?

Who defended this? He's simply responding to the ridiculous comment that this type of stuff is really why they hate us (as if they haven't raped their own women).

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Yay, the blame America first crowd is back!

So, raping prisoners is apropos to human dignity?

Who defended this? He's simply responding to the ridiculous comment that this type of stuff is really why they hate us (as if they haven't raped their own women).

Stop.  Just stop.  The fact that you use that as justification for these crimes makes you lose the little credibility you still had.  Do you even realize what you just said?

LOL

What? Are you...you can't...you can't be serious. Right?

That wasn't justifying this! You people need to learn logic. I said that your statement about this being why they hate us is absurd. This isn't why they really hate us. They hated us before this. I said that they rape their own women because that disproves your ridiculous myth that rape is why they hate us!

That was in no way, shape or form any justification.

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What you said is ridiculous. You said that this (not our freedoms) is why they hate us. Sure, this ads to it but we weren't raping their women in 2001. We weren't raping their women in 2000. We weren't raping their women in 1993.

No one here ever, ever, ever, ever defended this. No one here ever, ever, ever said we shouldn't admit this was a mistake. Of course it's a mistake. Of course it is horrific. However, your excuse that this is why they really hate us is flat out wrong.

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No one here ever, ever, ever, ever defended this. No one here ever, ever, ever said we shouldn't admit this was a mistake. Of course it's a mistake. Of course it is horrific. However, your excuse that this is why they really hate us is flat out wrong.

Lets leave it at that.

Ok, don't admit you're wrong.

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Uh, huh. Like you did here.

 

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Uh...you clearly hinted that our freedoms were not why they hated us; the rapes are the reason why.

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Sure

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No one here ever, ever, ever, ever defended this. No one here ever, ever, ever said we shouldn't admit this was a mistake. Of course it's a mistake. Of course it is horrific. However, your excuse that this is why they really hate us is flat out wrong.

Lets leave it at that.

Ok, don't admit you're wrong.

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Uh, huh. Like you did here.

 

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Uh...you clearly hinted that our freedoms were not why they hated us; the rapes are the reason why.

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Sure

I won't dignify you with a real answer because I have noticed that you play this game all the time and frankly I'm not really interested in a discussion that leads nowhere.

"Play this game"

So, basically, you now understand that you totally misunderstood my original statement but refuse to concede the point here.

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So it's hurting us in the War on Terror.

Sure it is but that's not the reason they really hate us; it's just adding to it.