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Keystone Phil
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« on: May 17, 2009, 06:06:20 PM »

Since I'm not a single issue kind of person, I'm really not pissed off with this.

That being said, no one said the speech would be "highly offensive." No one expected the President to launch verbal attacks on our positions on the issues. We have very strong disagreements with the President on what many of us believe to be an important issue.

They were right for letting him speak but they shouldn't have given him a degree.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 09:24:53 PM »

While I, too, find the use of images of aborted babies disturbing and counterproductive, I do find it hilarious when Pro Choicers complain about "grisly" images. That must take a lot of balls.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 01:36:28 PM »

While I, too, find the use of images of aborted babies disturbing and counterproductive, I do find it hilarious when Pro Choicers complain about "grisly" images. That must take a lot of balls.

In what sense?

I would oppose someone flying around over my town dragging a giant photograph of a woman being raped in Darfur, even though I think it's a very bad thing indeed. 

But you're not running into anyone defending the rape in Darfur or people that are on the fence on the issue that are more disgusted by the photos than the act...
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 06:45:48 PM »

Do people look at an aborted fetus flying above a city and change there minds?  Or is just showing everyone a disgusting image to "confront" a percentage of people with their own hypocrisy/whatever?

No because they feel that they shouldn't have to change their minds. God forbid you show them something that might challenge their view. They can't be bothered with silly little images. Those are disgusting but the procedure is suitable.

It takes balls to be offended by a naked appeal to emotion?

This post proves my point.

HOW DARE PPL START TO REALIZE TEH CRUELTY OF ABORTION!

Complain about seeing the image but not about the actual procedure.  Roll Eyes


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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 07:46:06 PM »

Most serious medical procedures, ignoring ethical issues, are disgusting.  I usually have to turn my head during surgery on basic television.

Most don't end a life.

Most Americans support war...until they see what's going on. It at least makes them question if it is really worth it. If more people did this on the abortion issue, I think more people would come out siding with the Pro Life movement.


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It challenges them to think about the seriousness of the procedure.

I don't find it all that persuasive either. I don't think they're helping the cause. That being said, I get disgusted with Pro Choicers that want to complain about the disgusting nature of the images and not the procedure.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 12:05:30 AM »



If it's counterproductive, why use it?

I personally believe it's counterproductive. I'm not defending its use. That being said, my only point here was that it's ridiculous to complain about the grisly images used in protest while not caring about the grisly images that take place during the procedure.


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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2009, 02:27:14 PM »



If it's counterproductive, why use it?

I personally believe it's counterproductive. I'm not defending its use. That being said, my only point here was that it's ridiculous to complain about the grisly images used in protest while not caring about the grisly images that take place during the procedure.

An open heart surgery isn't very nice to look at either, but I don't support banning that.

I addressed this asinine comparison earlier. Thanks though.
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