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Keystone Phil
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« on: February 26, 2009, 09:32:15 PM »

Politics1 said that he called for a more socially moderate party but I didn't see his calls for that in the excerpts that they posted from his interview with Politico. Anyone know if he actually said this or was he just really vague about needing a new direction?

Also, it turns out that he wanted the Stimulus Package to be bigger. Since many of his hardcore fans are the big fiscal/economic conservatives, isn't this a huge anchor around the guy's neck?

Listen, I really like the guy and, while I don't agree with the need to moderate on social issues, I don't really care if he really advocated a move to the center on certain things since the guy is clearly an overall conservative. However, the support for a bigger Stimulus Package is a tough sell.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2009, 10:06:48 PM »

If this was the direction the party would move in they might be able to win back some of the moderates which have been fleeing the party.  However, the Republican Party currently thinks they can win by being the far right party so they probably would reject this view and as a result turn those fleeing moderates into long-term Democrats.

Smash, I didn't ask for your talking points. Add something of substance next time.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2009, 10:20:56 PM »

The only way the Republican party is going to start winning presidential elections again is that they moderate heavily, both socially and economically. Fortunately for us, they still think that they lost in 2008 and 2006 because they weren't conservative enough, and if they'd just get back to their values (whatever those are) they'd really energize that base and start winning elections again.

People like Huntsman and Crist understand this, and that's why they're not going to be the candidate in 2012.

Another person feeding us the talking points and not reading through the thread.

Huntsman really didn't even say that we have to moderate. We have to take a "second look" at gay rights and the environment (and many of us already agree with that).

By the way, to some of you, our crushing defeats were because we were too conservative. This is just as ridiculous as the idea that we weren't conservative enough. This party lost in 2006 because of an unpopular war (maybe a slight rejection of the relatively new conservative ideological position on foreign affairs) and in 2008 because of an economic crisis. I wish people would stop feeding into this myth that we lost because we're "far right" epecially on social issues...when nobody really cared about those issues in either year.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 12:20:51 PM »

Thanks for talking sense, Paul. It's amazing how they conveniently forget.
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