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Keystone Phil
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« on: September 21, 2008, 06:00:27 PM »


I don't presume to divine such things, but I think it would be a shame for his life to be ruined over this.

Besides, it exposed a weakness - it wasn't even hacking, but just good guessing, from what I've read.  Someone who thinks herself capable of being vice president of the United States should try a bit harder to secure her email, and she should conduct official business over official channels, not try to hide communications in a personal account.  But I digress.

Oh, this was all her fault that some kid tried to screw around with her account?  Roll Eyes  That's not the most biased take on this.

I guess I can go tresspassing, find an establishment without their doors locked, walk around and blame the tenant.
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2008, 06:53:54 PM »

If Palin had only used her official email account, the hacker would not have been able to gain access to any files whatsoever.

Are you people really justifying this and blaming Palin? Really?
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2008, 07:47:37 PM »

Are you people really justifying this and blaming Palin? Really?
Phil, I am not justifying it, but to make such a huge deal out of some stupid 19 year old kid that obviously did this on his own, and will face the consequences of his actions, is ridiculous.

^ This.

That Palin's incompetence is once again exposed is merely a byproduct of this incident.

Again, no blame assigned to the asshole who did this. No, it's all about how Palin is "incompetent."  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 07:52:48 PM »

Are you people really justifying this and blaming Palin? Really?
Phil, I am not justifying it, but to make such a huge deal out of some stupid 19 year old kid that obviously did this on his own, and will face the consequences of his actions, is ridiculous.
^ This.

That Palin's incompetence is once again exposed is merely a byproduct of this incident.
Again, no blame assigned to the asshole who did this. No, it's all about how Palin is "incompetent."  Roll Eyes

Anyway, my main takeaway from this incident was that I don't want to see some kid's life ruined for a prank done through true sleuthing, rather than hacking.  No, he shouldn't have done it, but prison seems far too harsh for such an offense.


I love how Palin being a Vice Presidential candidate meant that she's enough of a big deal to have "known better" but apparently she isn't big enough for this kid to suffer from a serious punishment.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2008, 07:57:18 PM »


Law enforcement is on top of it... Obama's campaign has nothing to do with it!!!!

Who here is saying that the Obama campaign was invovled?
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2008, 07:59:02 PM »

i have a hunch that if joe biden's private email was hacked, nutmeg wouldnt contribute to the legal defense fund of some young twerp accused of the crime.

just a hunch.

Oh, come on. Don't be like that! He's an "independent!"
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2008, 08:03:54 PM »

i have a hunch that if joe biden's private email was hacked, nutmeg wouldnt contribute to the legal defense fund of some young twerp accused of the crime.

just a hunch.

Oh, come on. Don't be like that! He's an "independent!"

So is GoldenBoy.

I don't deny that he's biased. Your point?
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2008, 08:20:27 PM »



Anyway, back to the issue at hand: if this kid is guilty, how long should we lock him away?

What's the standard punishment here? I don't know if I necessarily agree with jail time. I'm just irritated that some of you don't seem to care about punishing the kid because it's apparently all Palin's fault.

I have never said the Palin "deserved to be hacked", simply that she was a little naive in not protecting her information better knowing that there would be di**wads that would most likely try to hack her account.

Yes, Oregon Progressive, that is what you and I have both said, more or less, but it matters not to those with a victim/sexism complex with regard to their candidate.

You both basically said that she got what she had coming to her.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2008, 08:44:54 PM »


I don't care about punishing the kid because it was so ingenious of him.  Had he actually defeated her security through hacking, that would be a different story.  I find this whole story such a ridiculous sideshow to the campaign - who else but Palin would have the place she met her husband as her password hint?

It was ingenious? That excuses this? You can hack someone's account and get away with it because it was smart?


You are both being ridiculous here.... no one has claimed that this is not criminal behavior

Check the genius post above mine.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2008, 08:57:13 PM »

I don't care about punishing the kid because it was so ingenious of him.  Had he actually defeated her security through hacking, that would be a different story.  I find this whole story such a ridiculous sideshow to the campaign - what other public official but Palin would have the place she met her husband as her password hint?

I haven't been able to determine what crime, if any, he could be charged with, and the news articles are rather vague on the matter.  If it had been her mailbox at the state capitol, or the one beside her driveway at home, then things would be more clear (mail fraud having granted us a rather well-developed body of case law).  Does anyone know?

Ask former Philadelphia anchorman Larry Mendte whether hacking someone's e-mail is a federal crime.  Hint: it is.

Haha, that's right. How did I not think of that one? Oh well. Larry can defend himself with a very simple argument: "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...it was an ingenious move!"
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