Who do you think is more strongly disliked in Kansas?

[Keystone Phil]

Who do you think is more strongly disliked in Kansas at this moment?

I'm going with option two because I'm not a Forum Dem hack.

[Keystone Phil]

This poll is dumb and tells us nothing about the Kansas gubernatorial race. Nice try, Keystone.

It wasn't meant to tell you about the Gubernatorial race. Well, other than combating the hackery that has run wild in that thread about how Obama and Brownback are basically disliked with the same intensity.

[Keystone Phil]

Brownback is more disliked because he's had an actual negative effect on people's lives, while Obama has had an actual positive effect through Obamacare/Medicade expansion, improved economic conditions and smarter use of military powers abroad.

Right. I'm sure that's exactly how most Americans, and especially Kansans, see it!

[Keystone Phil]

This poll is dumb and tells us nothing about the Kansas gubernatorial race. Nice try, Keystone.

It wasn't meant to tell you about the Gubernatorial race. Well, other than combating the hackery that has run wild in that thread about how Obama and Brownback are basically disliked with the same intensity.

I'm curious about the real numbers for that. Might be a question worth asking in their next poll.

Agreed. I'd actually anticipate it being somewhat close, probably with a small lead for Obama. But unfortunately for Brownback, Obama isn't on the ballot and he is.

A "small lead" for Obama. In a safe GOP state, you really think Brownback is that viciously hated that Obama would only have a "small lead" in the "Disliked More" category. Oh man.

P.S. - Bush wasn't on the ballot in 2006. Obama wasn't on the ballot in 2010.

Uh, yes? Maybe not small overall, but small relative to what one would expect. It wouldn't take very many "crossovers" to keep it within single digits, for instance.

The fact that this thread was started based on a comment nobody made is pretty funny.

I said "Obama and Brownback aren't equally hated." Sawx said he'd like to see the numbers on that. That led me to asking what the Forum thinks. Poor attempt at a "Gotcha!," Icespear.

[Keystone Phil]

This poll is dumb and tells us nothing about the Kansas gubernatorial race. Nice try, Keystone.

It wasn't meant to tell you about the Gubernatorial race. Well, other than combating the hackery that has run wild in that thread about how Obama and Brownback are basically disliked with the same intensity.

I'm curious about the real numbers for that. Might be a question worth asking in their next poll.

Agreed. I'd actually anticipate it being somewhat close, probably with a small lead for Obama. But unfortunately for Brownback, Obama isn't on the ballot and he is.

A "small lead" for Obama. In a safe GOP state, you really think Brownback is that viciously hated that Obama would only have a "small lead" in the "Disliked More" category. Oh man.

P.S. - Bush wasn't on the ballot in 2006. Obama wasn't on the ballot in 2010.

Uh, yes? Maybe not small overall, but small relative to what one would expect. It wouldn't take very many "crossovers" to keep it within single digits, for instance.

The fact that this thread was started based on a comment nobody made is pretty funny.

I said "Obama and Brownback aren't equally hated." Sawx said he'd like to see the numbers on that. That led me to asking what the Forum thinks. Poor attempt at a "Gotcha!," Icespear.

I said I think Obama would have a smaller than expected lead. As far as I can tell, Sawx never said what he thought the result would be, just that it would be an interesting question to ask. So you're attacking a strawman here.

Let me repeat: Sawx said he was curious about the result. I never said what he thought the result would be. I wanted the Forum's take. I made a poll. Please, get over it.

[Keystone Phil]

Here's what I actually said:

"It wasn't meant to tell you about the Gubernatorial race. Well, other than combating the hackery that has run wild in that thread about how Obama and Brownback are basically disliked with the same intensity."

Let's focus on the last few words there: "basically disliked with the same intensity." That means some people were suggesting that the level of dislike for both was pretty close to even. 

Don't misquote me and expect to get away with it.

Now let's look at a comment from the poster known as IceSpear: "Agreed. I'd actually anticipate it being somewhat close, probably with a small lead for Obama. But unfortunately for Brownback, Obama isn't on the ballot and he is."

The bolded text suggests that you believe the level of distaste for both might not be equal but would be pretty close to even. And almost no one here agrees with you. Again, get over it.

[Keystone Phil]

Here's what I actually said:

"It wasn't meant to tell you about the Gubernatorial race. Well, other than combating the hackery that has run wild in that thread about how Obama and Brownback are basically disliked with the same intensity."

Let's focus on the last few words there: "basically disliked with the same intensity." That means some people were suggesting that the level of dislike for both was pretty close to even. 

Don't misquote me and expect to get away with it.

Now let's look at a comment from the poster known as IceSpear: "Agreed. I'd actually anticipate it being somewhat close, probably with a small lead for Obama. But unfortunately for Brownback, Obama isn't on the ballot and he is."

The bolded text suggests that you believe the level of distaste for both might not be equal but would be pretty close to even. And almost no one here agrees with you. Again, get over it.

Except this poll isn't asking whether or not it would be close, it's simply asking who would be more disliked, which virtually everyone (including myself in that very thread) said would be Obama. Nice try.

But the comments here have laughed off the idea that it would be close. Your red avatar brethren have even said the hatred for Obama is more intense. I think I found who is being purposely obtuse here...

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Ok, pal.