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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #125 on: December 13, 2012, 08:10:37 AM »
Quote from: Iannis on December 13, 2012, 05:10:40 AM
That's because for the Constitution the Senate must represent regional equilibriums and the seat distribution can't depend from national outcome. With this system a coalition can have a majority in the Chamber of Deputies but not necessarily in the Senate.

But Senate seats are still distributed proportionally based on regional population, correct?
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« Reply #126 on: December 13, 2012, 09:20:47 PM »
Quote from: Fillon, laisse pas béton ! on December 13, 2012, 07:11:52 PM
So apparently, EPP leaders had a rally today and they offered their public endorsement to Monti to lead a centre-right coalition. I still have high doubts that this could be feasible in Italy's political climate, but in any case this is a major failure for Berlusconi. He doesn't even seem to be so widely supported among his party.

Also, election day will be on Feb. 17, and regional elections in Lombardia and Lazio will also be held that day.

Thank God for February 17th for personal reasons. Smiley Those regional elections should be really tough though.

I didn't know this EPP thing was actually a rally; I thought a bunch of them just released statements bashing Silvio. This is even more embarrassing.
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« Reply #127 on: December 13, 2012, 11:57:03 PM »
Is it definitely February 17th? One of my friends (a PD activist) said it "may be" that date so that led me to believe it's still between then and February 24th. I also didn't see anything on the newspaper websites stating a definitive date.
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« Reply #128 on: December 14, 2012, 12:37:36 PM »
Antonio, where did you see that it's definitely February 17th? Tongue
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« Reply #129 on: December 14, 2012, 09:53:17 PM »

That just takes me to the main page. I'll take your word that you saw it but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else.
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« Reply #130 on: December 17, 2012, 10:26:46 AM »
Not directly related to the election but the world is a buzz with news that Silvio is now engaged to a 28 year old even though he only announced that he now has a girlfriend.
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« Reply #131 on: December 17, 2012, 02:33:10 PM »
La Russa, Meloni and Crosetto have officially formed their new party, breaking from PdL.
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« Reply #132 on: December 17, 2012, 05:26:07 PM »
I know they'll still be linked with PdL but it seems like a good outlet for center-right voters that don't want to directly support PdL/Silvio but won't vote for the other parties.
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« Reply #133 on: December 18, 2012, 11:28:58 AM »
The new AN (supposedly going to be called Centrodestra Nazionale though La Russa said that's not necessarily the case) might be able to win back the center-right voters that fled to M5S...
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« Reply #134 on: December 18, 2012, 11:16:53 PM »
Quote from: Swedish Cheese on December 18, 2012, 08:04:50 PM


La Russa might have the strangest apperance of any politician I have ever seen.

You should see him when he laughs. He looks and sounds devilish. I get a kick out of him.
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« Reply #135 on: December 19, 2012, 09:19:36 AM »
This guy can't stay consistent for his life - http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/18/berlusconi-says-his-country-needs-him-and-will-show-that-in-forthcoming/
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« Reply #136 on: December 19, 2012, 05:16:37 PM »
Election will be February 24th. Sad

As for the polls, looks like PdL is slowly rebounding but that PD lead is huge.
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« Reply #137 on: December 20, 2012, 01:30:08 PM »
Meloni and Crosetto officially leave PdL. The new center-right party is Fratelli d'Italia. How original.
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« Reply #138 on: December 21, 2012, 01:52:57 PM »
Monti has officially resigned but will head the "caretaker" government until the election.
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« Reply #139 on: December 21, 2012, 06:13:55 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2012, 06:15:30 PM by Keystone Phil »

And Silvio remarked that Monti running would be dangerous or something bizarre and I don't think it was just that him running would tactically dangerous (which is another point he made. It would split the "moderate" vote).
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« Reply #140 on: December 23, 2012, 08:38:52 AM »
I'm seeing that he refused to lead a center-right coalition because of Berlusconi's antics but that he still left the door open to run his own centrist slate. Is that the case or did he totally rule out running?
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« Reply #141 on: December 23, 2012, 11:07:09 AM »
I remember there being debate over whether or not he could run because he's a life Senator and Napolitano even weighed in but there must have been some loophole when you consider the saavy backers he had, trying to get him to run.
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« Reply #142 on: December 23, 2012, 05:40:29 PM »
Quote from: Fillon, laisse pas béton ! on December 23, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
I'm pretty sure that if the left wins they'll be more than happy to give him the Quirinale. Monti has a pretty good profile for an Italian President.

Considering the monopoly the left seems to have on the Presidency, I'd imagine the right would be satisfied, too.
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« Reply #143 on: December 24, 2012, 08:29:24 AM »
But where are these PdL and PD MPs that are pledging themselves to Monti going? Are they waiting for a new Monti-centric party to emerge that will adopt his policies or is Monti saying it must be an already existing party that has to embrace his policies? Would these MPs join UdC?
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« Reply #144 on: December 27, 2012, 10:16:24 AM »
I was just looking at the election Wiki page and noticed this new party - "Orange Movement." One of the leaders (Ingroia) is mentioned above but the other is de Magistris. Why did he leave IdV?
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« Reply #145 on: December 28, 2012, 09:27:21 AM »
Latest poll by German firm Wahlfieber...

PD - 32.4%
M5S - 15%
VTR (Monti) - 14.2%
PdL - 13.3%
SeL - 6.9%
LN - 4.5%
Others - 15%

It would have been nice if "Others" was broken down to see where UdC, IdV, etc. stand.
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« Reply #146 on: December 28, 2012, 10:34:18 AM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on December 28, 2012, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Keystone Phil on December 28, 2012, 09:27:21 AM
Latest poll by German firm Wahlfieber...

PD - 32.4%
M5S - 15%
VTR (Monti) - 14.2%
PdL - 13.3%
SeL - 6.9%
LN - 4.5%
Others - 15%

It would have been nice if "Others" was broken down to see where UdC, IdV, etc. stand.

Wahlfieber isn't a poll though. It's the German version of Intrade.

Oops! It was listed in the polling section of the Wiki page. Someone might want to remove that...
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« Reply #147 on: December 28, 2012, 10:37:20 AM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on December 28, 2012, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: Keystone Phil on December 28, 2012, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: Tender Branson on December 28, 2012, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: Keystone Phil on December 28, 2012, 09:27:21 AM
Latest poll by German firm Wahlfieber...

PD - 32.4%
M5S - 15%
VTR (Monti) - 14.2%
PdL - 13.3%
SeL - 6.9%
LN - 4.5%
Others - 15%

It would have been nice if "Others" was broken down to see where UdC, IdV, etc. stand.

Wahlfieber isn't a poll though. It's the German version of Intrade.

Oops! It was listed in the polling section of the Wiki page. Someone might want to remove that...

Yeah, they should remove it. It's kinda strange that they think a German company would poll an Italian election ... Unless this Wahlfieber company actually did (?) Maybe they commissioned a poll ? I have to check this ... Do you have the link, Phil ?

I did find it odd that a German company would poll the election. Then again, considering the impact that this could have on Europe, it isn't that crazy.

http://wahlfieber.de/de_du/markt/ITA-2013--parlamentswahlen-in-italien-2013/
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« Reply #148 on: December 28, 2012, 02:49:22 PM »
A truly fascinating country.
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« Reply #149 on: December 28, 2012, 05:08:06 PM »
I was wondering about seat allocation changes and was about to ask about it. Thank. Smiley  Sad to see such seat loss in the south.

I'm surprised Berlusconi is polling that high in PM preference.

Also, didn't Lega say they won't run with PdL as long as Berlusconi is the standard bearer?
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