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Keystone Phil
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« on: January 06, 2011, 01:39:58 AM »

Just saw this elsewhere.  Tongue


No, not really. It's actually not surprising. I figure I can share a story on this subject...

As I was outside of Toomey's DC reception, I noticed Santorum working the lobby. The crowd around him was a respectable size and excited. I noticed this kid asking Santorum if he would get a picture with him because he wants to have one when he's President. Even Santorum was taken aback by the comment. No joke.

He's staffing up in Iowa so he's running but when I see a reaction like the one I saw today, I'm thinking there is something else to all of this.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 05:22:41 PM »


Possibly
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 03:29:55 PM »

Did Santorum decline re-election in 2006 or did he lose? In the case that he lost, the idea that he would run for President is preposterous. Romney at least had the wisdom to not run.

He lost. By a lot.

biggest defeat since the 80's

59-41, exactly.

Quite bad for a two-term (12 years) incumbent.

Well, if we want to be exact, it was more like 58-41.  Wink

You provided zero background for the race so throwing a "quite bad" jab in there was unfair.

Did Santorum decline re-election in 2006 or did he lose? In the case that he lost, the idea that he would run for President is preposterous. Romney at least had the wisdom to not run.

Romney was "wise" enough not to run? Or how about Santorum at least had the guts to run and have his ass handed to him while Mitt ran away to start playing Mr. Conservative?

How does losing a race six years ago make running for another ridiculous? I know we all think like politicos and see a loss as a major strike against someone. Add in the fact that it was a blowout and it isn't crazy to think someone's political career is over. People losing one office then trying for a higher office is uncommon but it shouldn't be a "preposterous" idea. Obama lost a primary for the House in 2000 by thirty points. His career was "over," too. Then he decided to take it a step further and run for the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate just four years after that crushing, "career ending' defeat. See why it isn't so preposterous?
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 07:54:10 PM »



It would take a hell of lot of "background" to reduce the impact of those kind of numbers.

I'm not saying that that isn't a horrible defeat but there is some background that needs to be given and primary voters would be more understanding if it is presented a certain way.

Santorum caught hell for running to the right on immigration and standing by Bush on the war. Looking back on it, he wouldn't have been as badly damaged if people knew what they know now. The Presidential primary electorate will certainly be more understanding.

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He wanted to be leader but, most importantly, he wanted to be President. Yes, he had plenty to gain from running and trying to win but it would have been easier to not run for re-election and run for President in 2008 and/or 2012.
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