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« on: August 06, 2004, 03:33:35 AM »

I think you mistake anti-Bush sentiment for anti-Americanism. Most British people hate Bush but quite like the US.
...and as for allies, the UK has been a long standing ally of the US and Bush repaid us by imposing visas on British tourists and fingerprinting all UK visitors.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2004, 03:44:50 AM »

Not true. I know several Americans living in the UK and they encounter little if any trouble. Brits are not Anti-American whatsoever, they just don't like Bush. They don't like the whole gun-slinging, Texan cowboy business. It unsettles us a bit.
It's amazing actually the amount of air-time given to the US election in Britain. It's on the news practically every day.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2004, 03:47:29 AM »

I think you mistake anti-Bush sentiment for anti-Americanism.

I think you mistake anti-Americanism for anti-Bush sentiment.

Indeed. I was in Europe pre-9/11 and it was every bit as bad then.

Which country? I don't see much evidence of anti-americanism in Britain and I live here. The only thing I see is a dislike of Bush, but probably no more than you see in Massachussetts of Rhode Island.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2004, 03:51:33 AM »

Not true. I know several Americans living in the UK and they encounter little if any trouble. Brits are not Anti-American whatsoever, they just don't like Bush. They don't like the whole gun-slinging, Texan cowboy business. It unsettles us a bit.
It's amazing actually the amount of air-time given to the US election in Britain. It's on the news practically every day.

It's on the news everyday because European media and governments are beginning to use the United States as a "boogeyman" in the same way Arab states have for decades. By focusing on the US, your leaders and media distract you from the fact that your own countries are falling apart around you.

Actually the UK media is highly critical of the British government and it's foreign policy. Our media does nothing BUT run down the UK! I'd really like to know how showing the Democratic convention on TV is trying to turn the US into a boogeyman???!!! Paranoia or what!
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2004, 03:57:12 AM »

Not true. I know several Americans living in the UK and they encounter little if any trouble. Brits are not Anti-American whatsoever, they just don't like Bush. They don't like the whole gun-slinging, Texan cowboy business.

And, has Bush acctually done this, or is it just assumed because people around the world think that most Americans fit this image?

Er? Credit us with a bit of intelligence please! Yeh, we all think Americans are gun toting Texans. Like on Will and Grace and Frasier!!
The fact remains Bush is not the smartest of presidents is he? He can barely string a sentence together most of the time. Compare him to Clinton (who was extremely popular in Britain & most of Europe)!
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2004, 04:00:25 AM »


It's on the news everyday because European media and governments are beginning to use the United States as a "boogeyman" in the same way Arab states have for decades. By
It's not the fact that it's covered, it's the amount of coverage and the way it is covered. The editorial is decidedly anti-Bush, and to a lesser extent, subtly anti-American. If European nations spent more time worrying about themselves instead of what WE ARE DOING IN THE US then you might actually have single digit unemployment rates.

Mark, the UK has far lower unemployment than the US!!!!
It was about 3% last time I checked. In some places it's barely 1%!
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2004, 04:10:26 AM »

Mark, same here.  I was in Europe just two months before 9/11 and they treated us like crap.  We had to say that we were Canadian if we expected any help from the locals.

Oh get real! Which country please?!
Europe is not ONE country you know. Anyway, you think YOU get treated like crap, try being an Englishman in Scotland! Try being German anywhere but in Germany and try being English in Paris! Then you'll know the meaning of the word 'treated like crap'. Americans don't have a monopoly on being disliked you know, most countries harbour some dislike of eachother. In England people even hate other counties! Yorkshire-Lancashire anyone?!
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2004, 05:35:39 AM »

Mark, yes I agree with you. Europeans really could learn a lot from the US when it comes to politeness, hospitality and customer service. I've been to New York a few times and found the people insufferably polite and helpful. Sadly this is not the case in many European countries and the UK is no exception. I don't know why this is, however it's nothing new.
You shouldn't assume this is because you're American, I just think in general Europeans are ruder. The most unfriendly place I've ever been was Milan! I got ripped-off, chased by a drug-addict and ignored countless times in shops and restaurants.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2004, 08:10:44 AM »

I agree about Canada. It IS very anti-American. Much more so than Britain which is more anti-Bush. That said, many Canadians accuse the US of being anti-Canadian which I can sort of agree with. Americans are always bating Canada, even on South Park & The Simpsons! Plus Americans always make fun of Canadian money calling it 'funny money'. Smiley

In any case, all xenophobia is disgusting. Disliking a person just by virtue of their country of origin is perverse.
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