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« on: November 08, 2013, 01:48:53 AM »
I know I'm not Gass3268, and I don't pretend I'm speaking for him here, but I strongly object to limiting abortions at any stage of pregnancy. I do support the intent of this amendment, but I think it should go further -- with a name like "Women's Rights Amendment" we should really do something with it that not only guarantees the right to an abortion, but also guarantees equality before the law for women.
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2013, 07:29:46 AM »
Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on November 08, 2013, 03:15:20 AM
The killing of any unborn child that could survive outside of the womb is simply inhumane and I would go as far as to say murder. For that reason, I oppose Tyrion's amendment as it does not adequately address that issue.

A fetus =/= a child
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2013, 10:06:24 AM »
Quote from: Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 09, 2013, 07:11:07 AM
Quote from: Senator TNF on November 08, 2013, 01:48:53 AM
I know I'm not Gass3268, and I don't pretend I'm speaking for him here, but I strongly object to limiting abortions at any stage of pregnancy. I do support the intent of this amendment, but I think it should go further -- with a name like "Women's Rights Amendment" we should really do something with it that not only guarantees the right to an abortion, but also guarantees equality before the law for women.

Didn't Nappy and the boys already take care of that a year ago?

You'll have to forgive me, Senator, I must have missed that one while perusing the Constitution.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 04:02:35 PM »
NAY

Women should have the right to choose until birth.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2013, 11:09:57 PM »
Quote from: Attorney General Ben on November 12, 2013, 05:32:34 PM
Quote from: Senator TNF on November 11, 2013, 04:02:35 PM
Women should have the right to choose until birth.

That's simply not the case.  After a certain point we cannot argue that we are not dealing with a living thing that has rights of its own.

Yeah, that point is obviously birth.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 04:26:25 PM »
Quote from: Attorney General Ben on November 13, 2013, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: Senator TNF on November 12, 2013, 11:09:57 PM
Quote from: Attorney General Ben on November 12, 2013, 05:32:34 PM
After a certain point we cannot argue that we are not dealing with a living thing that has rights of its own.

Yeah, that point is obviously birth.

No, it certainly is not.  By the time of viability we are absolutely dealing with a living thing.  Viability should be the latest possible point in which an abortion is legal, barring extraordinary circumstances.

No, we really aren't.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 03:58:41 PM »
Is there anything else worth discussing here?
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2013, 04:23:14 PM »
AYE.
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