At what point in the day do you think Hillary's team knew things were rough?

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

That night there were three big alarms that all came in quick succession (between 8:30 pm and 9 pm, IIRC):

1. The Florida vote dump that suddenly put Trump ahead statewide, and ahead in Obama counties (specifically Pinellas)
2. Clinton's very bad, no good numbers in Virginia
3. Pennsylvania being very close even after a lot of Democratic areas had come in.

When Michigan returns started rolling in, I think they knew they were probably screwed.

But I have a feeling they had internal numbers and early voting data beforehand that scared them.  I mentioned in a thread on here back on Monday that I was very nervous about PA for a number of reasons.  I guarantee you they were as well.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Personally I started sh**tting my pants when I saw the early Virginia returns.  I imagine they knew at least by then or more likely before.

Don't know how many elections you've watched closely.  But eventually you'll watch enough of them to know exactly how Virginia counts....and you won't be fooled by VA early returns again.  There's no other state like it out there.  The Republican areas always report early and the Dem areas always report late.

No other state has such a strong and consistent tendency to give misleading early counting results.

Even given that NOVA comes in late, Trump's numbers in other parts of the state were phenomenal.  He was turning light red counties from 2012 into deep red counties.  The math from what would need to come in from the late returns started to look really sketchy.