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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« on: October 25, 2016, 04:06:09 PM »

My very, very brief primer on national debt and monetary policy:

1. Fiat currency is a medium of exchange, not a store of value.  Value is in tangible things or the ability to make or do tangible things, while fiat currency only represents those things in the abstract.  Inflation is not taxation.  If McDonald's decides they need another 50 cents for a Big Mac, that money doesn't go to the government.  The important thing is that Big Macs keep getting made, and the value of your work can be converted appropriately into Big Macs.

2. Don't think of the US as a family household that's run up their credit card.  Think of the US as an enormous company that everyone in the world keeps investing in because it's one of the safest businesses on earth.  The value of the US is dependent on the ability of the economy to generate revenue.  And its ability to raise cash through the sale of bonds is one of the things that allows the economy to keep moving and generating revenue.  While this confidence could someday come crashing down, it's unlikely to unless something catastrophic happens.  And if/when it does, the run on US debt will be just one of many problems.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2016, 10:03:28 PM »

1. Fiat currency is a medium of exchange, not a store of value.  Value is in tangible things or the ability to make or do tangible things, while fiat currency only represents those things in the abstract.  Inflation is not taxation.

Of course currency is a store of value.

You can ask people who have lived under hyperinflationary situations.  Very often you would see them cash their paycheck at the bank and literally go across the street to the nearest retail store and buy anything, even something they didn't need.  All in order to exchange their "store of value" from something eroding on an hourly basis to something with some value stability.

You just stated my point.  A dollar is not a thing that stores value, it's a measure of relative worth.  It's only worth what you can get for it right now, whether you are in a hyperinflationary or deflationary economy.

Government borrowing more valuable dollars now and repaying with less valuable dollars later is of course a form of taxation.  Normally the interest rate on a bond covers the "cost of money", but only the federal government has the power to unilaterally abrogate the interest rate by "printing" new currency which inherently devalues all existing store of value (i.e. currency already in other hands).

Any debtor who pays back a loan with inflated currency gets a benefit, not just the government.  And yes, when the central bank is directly under the control of the government, then the government can print its way out of debt, effectively taxing the economy.  The US Treasury cannot do this because it doesn't control the monetary policy of the Federal Reserve.  The Fed is not concerned with politics, only price stability and controlling unemployment.

The expectation of inflation is also baked into interest rates.  In an inflationary environment, interest rates go up.  The fact that the Fed can set the funds rate at next to zero (or zero), and the market accepts this, indicates that the market doesn't expect inflation.

But that's beside the point.  The point is that the federal government cannot print its way out of debt.  That's not how it works.  The Federal Reserve controls the money presses, and they're not going to allow inflation just to enable a government fiscal policy.  The Fed doesn't give a rat's ass about fiscal policy.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2016, 11:54:45 PM »

Any debtor who pays back a loan with inflated currency gets a benefit, not just the government.

But for every beneficiary (net debtor) of inflation there is an offsetting person (net creditor) who is on the detrimental end of that exchange.  For the private sector, it is entirely a zero sum game!

Only the entity issuing the fiat currency can benefit from the inflation.

Think of a perfect counterfeiter.  He creates currency that doesn't get caught at the bank, and it enters the economy.  Such a person is inducing micro-inflation.  And only he is the beneficiary of that inflation.

The risk of inflation is built into the interest rate.  Whether you are a person taking out a mortgage, a corporation issuing bonds, or a country issuing debt obligations.  There's always a risk to the creditor that the principal will lose real value, or a risk to the debtor that the principal will gain value and be more difficult to pay.  Risk is inherent to any financial exchange.

The United States government has no power to directly induce inflation and weasel out of debt; monetary policy is insulated from politics.  Without this you could have a Zimbabwe or Weimar Germany, but we have an independent central bank.  Furthermore, all new money created is balanced with a debt obligation.  In our system of central banking you can't pay off debt with new money.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2016, 08:03:55 AM »

The risk of inflation is built into the interest rate.

The only inflation adjusting fixed rate instrument that I know of are TIPS.  And even they may not have an accurate peg, as Bureau of Labor and Statistics inflation figures have a large subjective component.

Large shifts in inflation rates almost always cause significant re-pricing in bond and securities markets.  That re-pricing is an inherent acknowledgement by the market of a mis-pricing of inflation.  It is not without cost to the economy.  Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter could tell us a lot about that.

The re-pricing of bonds (which is what drives interests rates when you get down to it) is the market baking inflation risk into interest rates.  If I think prices are going to rise significantly over the term that I'm lending to someone, I'm going to demand a higher rate.  Just as I'm going to demand a higher rate if I believe the debtor is more likely to default.  But risk is called risk because the outcome is uncertain.  The market may believe inflation will go up, and it doesn't, or vice versa.  The important thing is that funds move, business has capital and can hire people, and people can buy homes.  The important thing is that abstract money can feed concrete economic activity.

The United States government has no power to directly induce inflation and weasel out of debt; monetary policy is insulated from politics.

Yet here we are today, with an independent Fed keeping interest rates at emergency level for nearly an entire two term Presidency.  The insulation is paper thin.  Don't get me wrong, that's not an accusation against Yellen.  She's not corrupt, she's merely human.  It's just natural confirmation bias that all humans are prone to make.  An independent Fed can easily make the same human mistakes any politician can.

It is not a mistake (IMO) to keep rates low when there is little sign of inflation and funds are not flowing significantly to fuel economic growth.  It may be a mistake to keep rates low for other reasons - because it punishes people living on fixed-payment instruments, and because of the massive hangover that will happen when the Fed finally takes the punchbowl away and stocks crash as a result.  (If I can get a larger return on bonds, I'm going to demand an even larger return on stocks, which drives down price.)

And it's easy to see how a Fed chair will be subject to confirmation bias style mistakes in the future, as they surely will understand that raising interest rates will blow a big hole in debt service portion of the budget.

The government will have to pay a higher rate on new issues (treasuries will sell for a lower price at auction) but on debt already issued, the rate will remain the same.  Hopefully that leads to more responsible fiscal policy - I believe the cost of debt is built into the budget and the resulting deficit projections will become a matter of political import.  lol.  No, really.  But at the very least, the cost of revolving debt will have political consequences.

The upshot of all of this is that deficit is certainly critical, but the debt itself is simply a way for the government to leverage its massive power to collect revenue.

You may also recall that Nixon did not re-nominate William Martin in 1970 and installed Arthur Burns as Fed Chair, who was a strong believer in easy monetary policies.  Those policies persisted on into Carter's term.  Paul Volcker was heavily and widely criticized in 79-81 when he decided to take the fed funds rate to 20%.  Everyone praises him now in hindsight.  But his actions were highly controversial at the time.  Burns and Bill Miller (Carter's 1978 nominee) were smart men, not corrupt, yet they failed to see the correct course of action that only Volcker finally took to tame inflation.

Inflation is a complicated beast.  The end of Breton Woods certainly shocked confidence in currency.  We also had productivity issues, in which the value of goods and services in the economy did not keep up with the funds available to pay for them.  Easy money went into pockets, but didn't lead to more wealth.  Today we have the opposite.  Easy money stays in cash reserves of financial institutions still shocked by the 2009 crisis, and not in the pockets of consumers.  Meanwhile we have a boom in productivity.  The "jobless recovery."  Lots of stuff to buy, not enough increase in available money to pay for it.  This is why Yellen takes a look at inflation, says "nope, still not enough," and keeps rates low.
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