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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« on: July 07, 2016, 12:51:13 PM »


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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,123
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Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2016, 09:03:35 AM »

So here we have Trump calling a Republican senator a "loser" and telling another that he will ensure that the senator will lose his reelection bid, all the while claiming he will carry Illinois.  Trump is unprepared, unfit and unhinged.  If this is how Trump interacts with members of his own party, imagine him in diplomatic relations with foreign leaders.  This is someone who will ruin our alliances, our place in the global economy and our standing in the world.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2016, 10:16:08 AM »

Just a simple question: If the Trumpster can’t get along with congress right now, how would he get along as prez? And I’m talking about a GOP congress. Forget about Obama’s relation to the Republicans. At least he has the backing of fellow Dems, the Trumpster would be opposed by wide parts of the GOP and the Dems. Well, at least we could end up with more bipartisanship. Well well...

This is why I have been saying for months that it would be better for Trump to lose and the GOP learn its lessons and move on, than for Trump to win and tear the party apart as President.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2016, 10:22:35 AM »

I would venture to suggest that Trump may cobble together coalitions on every issue.  I can see him cobbling together a coalition of Democrats and Republicans to "fix" Obamacare, even if it pretends to "repeal and replace" it.  The key would be to wrap it up in a label where Republicans could bask in the glory of being "problem solvers".  I believe that as time goes by, folks view Obamacare as the status quo, and even Republicans have benefitted from (and secretly approved of) some of the aspects of Obamacare that benefit them (e. g. letting your kids stay on your policy until age 26).

On foreign policy and trade, I can see Trump prevailing with coalitions of liberal Democrats and non-interventionist Republicans.  The same would be true of corporate bailouts.  (These, by the way, are issues on which Mike Pence sides with Trump.)  If Trump is elected, he would have a mandate to do these things, and members of both parties, often with different reasons, are willing to go along with each other on these issues.

Politics is not always logical.  This election is being fought on issues where the left (Sanders) and the right (Trump) converge.  If Trump is elected, I would predict an end to the kind of gridlock we have had, and a return to pragmatic coalition-building, either because of Trump, or in spite of him.  We'll see.  I do believe that the cycle of rigid partisanship we have had is coming to a close.  We won't have folks calling each other RINOs and DINOs much in the next 10 years.

Have you seen anything at all coming from The Donald's mouth that indicates an understanding of, let alone a willingness to form, political alliances and compromises?  If you ask Trump basic questions like, "Can a President introduce a bill to Congress," or "what are Congressional committees for," or "how does a bill become a law," do you think he would be able to provide a correct answer?
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