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« on: February 27, 2011, 02:54:56 PM »

Two questions,

Will there be a by election in Dublin for European Parliament

No. A replacement list is offered by each candidate before the European Parliament elections and the replacement will be appointed from that list.

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On the left:

Five from the United Left Alliance:
Higgins (Dublin West), Daly (Dublin North) - both Socialist Party.
Boyd-Barrett (Dún Laoghaire), Collins (Dublin South Central) - both People Before Profit (Boyd-Barrett is a member of the Socialist Workers' Party, whose front organisation People Before Profit is, while Collins is a former member of the Socialist Party).
Healy (Tipperary South) - Workers and Unemployed Action Group (local group in Clonmel town).

Other left:
O'Sullivan (Dublin Central) and McGrath (Dublin North Central) - both associated with the late Tony Gregory, would be generally left of Labour but pragmatic where local issues are concerned.
Murphy (Kildare North) - former member of the Workers' Party,Democratic Left and Labour who left the latter party in 2004.
Halligan (Waterford) - former member of the Workers' Party who left due to disagreements on local service charges, was unsucessfully wooed by Labour as a candidate earlier this year.
Pringle (Donegal South West) - originally elected as an independent to the local county council and then self-described as a "republican socialist", then joined and subsequently left Sinn Féin.
Wallace (Wexford) - building contractor and property developer who runs the local soccer team and who was noted during the last decade for using properties to host banners opposing Irish facilitation of the US invasion of Iraq and the war in Kosovo among other causes. Leftish but maverick.

"Gene-pool" FF:
Fleming (Kerry South) - stood as an independent after failing to be selected at this election.
McGrath (Tipperary South) - spent four years as a semi-permanent stone in the shoe of successive Fianna Fáil leaders before finally jumping ship earlier this year.
Healy-Rae (Kerry South) - no more need be said.

"Gene-pool" FG:
Lowry (Tipperary North) - former FG cabinet minister who was forced to stand down and subsequently resigned as a party member due to questionable business links, has acted as a "sugar daddy" for his constituency (a current major project is a proposed casino in a small village just off the main Dublin-Limerick road).

Other right:

Ross (Dublin South) - stockbroker, business journalist and general commentator and campaigner on shareholder issues. Has gained notice for his criticism of the business culture that led to the current crash (although he was less critical of some of the major figures involved during the time of the bubble itself). Member of the Senate for Trinity College Dublin and briefly a member of Fine Gael in the early 90s, which liaison ended badly.
Donnelly (Wicklow - possible) - former management consultant with McKinsey and Harvard Kennedy School of Government graduate, campaigned on economic issues in generally vague terms.

Both of these are highly critical of the terms of the EU/IMF bailout and general banking policy.

Others:
Flanagan (Roscommon-South Leitrim) - commonly known as "Ming", first stood as a campaigner for the legalisation of cannabis in the early 00s, later widened his appeal as a community activist and was elected to the Roscommon County Council in 2004. One of his main issues over the last few years has been in opposition to restrictions on turf-cutting brought in by EU regulations (the ability to cut and use turf as fuel instead of other fuels being a major issue in rural areas).
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 03:00:37 PM »


Ross, very much so. Wallace, though, is a million miles away from the PDs.

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Healy is certainly an ex-Trot. Halligan was a member of the Workers' Party, which is very definitely not Trotskyite.

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I'd group these three fairly close together.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 03:02:06 PM »

What's the matter with Kerry N-W Limerick? It doesn't seem like the sort of place to elect 1 Lab and 1 SF out of three seats.

Large leftish vote in Tralee, which is a sizeable town by Irish standards, combined with a large republican vote in Kerry generally.
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 03:41:47 PM »

So I misremembered on Wallace. Tongue

The Workers Party is... to SF as Trots are to Labour? Is that an apt analogy?

The Workers' Party are Tankies.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 11:04:21 AM »

Well, firstly, it's what they've always done. Secondly, there may be a view that a stable government would be better for the country and helpful in terms with dealing with the country's new masters. Thirdly, politics is about power; you don't run for office just because doing so successfully is an ego boost, you want to actually do something. Labour may also feel that it would be better for its supporters (old and new) if it kept a leash on the more right-wing elements within Fine Gael. And so on and so forth.

Yeah, makes sense. But do they realize that strategically this is an epic fail that will likely kill them in the next election, meaning that they will have wasted a historic occasion to become a true government party ?

As for Fine Gael, they would be a lot safer and freer in their policy choice by forming a minority government with the support of a few independents.

The problem for FG is that they will have a maximum of 76 seats assuming that they edge out Catherine Connolly (dissident left-wing Labour) for the last seat in Galway West.

Of the independents, they might be able to gain support on ideological grounds from Ross, Grealish (Galway West - ex-PD) and Donnelly (may sneak the last seat in Wicklow ahead of SF), which brings them to a maximum of 79.

The two Tipperary gombeens (Lowry and McGrath) might be willing to support them but it won't look good from the point of view of a "change" agenda; Michael Noonan (former leader and current finance spokesman) has warned against dependence on "high-maintenance" independents. Once you get to Ming the Merciless and The Cap Óg, then you're building a very shaky arrangement indeed.

Of course, if FF were to promise to abstain, then FG would have a majority of six on their own...
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