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wilji1090
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« on: March 05, 2011, 12:47:16 AM »

Somehow I feel like 2012 is going to be a repeat of 1912.

Reason I say this is because I think that Democrats are largely displeased with Obama's performance while Republicans are out to repeat the grand success of Ronald Reagan's election of Jimmy Carter. But, for some reason I'm beginning to see Barack Obama not as the Democrat Reagan, but rather a Democrat William Taft.

What I mean is, could 2012 see the rise of another Bull Moose Party with a Theodore Roosevelt-like figure heading it out of disgust with both political parties?

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Is it entirely possible we could get a centrist Republican ala Bob Dole style or even a Republican Bill Clinton? Personally, I see this one as the most likely and probably the most needed, especially when you consider the notion of third parties having little success in elections.

The only one who strikes me as a possible Clinton-esque figure for the GOP would be Donald Trump, though whether he can get nominated and ELECTED remains to be seen.

Your thoughts?
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wilji1090
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2011, 03:40:25 PM »

The issue with Obama = Taft is the fact that George W. Bush was not and never will be a Democrat, or anywhere near Teddy Roosevelt for that matter.

If you want a good Obama comparison, look to Nixon and Clinton. Both of whom won their re-election challenges fairly easily.

Well, what I mean is, Obama is drawing severe fire from the left it seems much like how Taft inadvertently split the Republicans during his presidency. Now, I am quite possibly over-exaggerating it, but it seems likely that someone will rise from the Democrats or GOP and try to pull a Teddy Roosevelt in forming a brand new party, personally, I think it'll be between Ron Paul and Ralph Nader, though I'd wager Ron Paul's likelihood of getting on the ballots is far greater than Nader's.

As for Clinton and Nixon, well, I can certainly see, especially taking into consideration Jeb Bush saying that they shouldn't underestimate Obama's likelihood of getting re-elected.
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wilji1090
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 05:53:50 PM »

Well, I suppose it could be worse, I mean we've got Dan Quayle 2.0 aka Sarah Palin considering a run which idk, sorta scares me because I know nothing about her.

As for Obama being compared to LBJ, that is perhaps the most analytical comparison one has given and quite honestly I'm impressed, I've either seen Obama hailed as FDR 2.0 or demonized as Carter 2.0. I think the guy's got a LOT of faults, but then what person doesn't. Now, I actually wouldn't mind seeing another Obama term, but at the same time I wish people especially on Fox News, would get off their high horse about the man being a socialist. I mean, if Barack Obama is a socialist then he's a rather POOR socialist I think.

Still, I think it'll an intriguing election especially if Obama is re-elected, and personally I think the man has a decent shot at it.
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