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[danwxman]

The Democrats have been the majority in this country since FDR. But the sea is changing...the country is now dead even between Republicans and Democrats...and now it seems we are heading into a Republican majority.

The argument could certainly be made that for a long time...Democrats had too much power. When one group has too much power, they tend to corrupt themselves. I am very much for a two-party government.

Just be careful not to get too corrupt, or you will destroy yourselves. Just since the election, we have Tom Delay changing the rules, rogue righties blocking intelligence reform, and an Oklahoma Republican senator sneaking a provision into a spending bill to allow him to look at your tax returns.

No doubt the slight majority of this country is now Republican. We may be heading for 40 years of a Republican majority, or it may just be lasting a few years. Who knows. Just take care.

[danwxman]

I really do think there legitimately is an opening for a third party.

There are a ton of folks who, like me,  are socially pretty liberal, but fiscally pretty conservative. 

Both parties have abandoned these people to "gin up the base"

I don't think a thitd party has a chance to "win" but I bet a credible and moderate 3rd party candidate for Prez might peel off 20% or so, and at 20% the next election cycle both main parties would stampede back towards the middle.

I still think that if it were not for Perot, Perot would have won in 1992.

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level. But like I said in another thread...focus on races where a candidate is running unopposed by the other major party. The chances of winning aren't that much better, but you really get the party's name out there and it's a good way to get first-time voters for your party.

[danwxman]

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

[danwxman]

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

[danwxman]

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

Then why did you answer the initial question the way you did?

My original point is that we have a very polarized, partisan country right now. What is the problem?

[danwxman]

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

Then why did you answer the initial question the way you did?

My original point is that we have a very polarized, partisan country right now. What is the problem?

Your statement was that we are a highly partisan and polarized nation.  It would then follow that members of a party would support their party heavily.

Al countered with four examples of states where Democrats have a large advantage in registration numbers.

You answered by saying there are a lot of partisans. 

This does not explain how states where Democrats heavily outnumber Republicans voted for the Republican for President.

That is correct, but it's *not* my point. There are a lot of partisan Democrats and partisan Republicans....just as there are moderate Democrats and Republicans.

[danwxman]

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

Then why did you answer the initial question the way you did?

My original point is that we have a very polarized, partisan country right now. What is the problem?

Your statement was that we are a highly partisan and polarized nation.  It would then follow that members of a party would support their party heavily.

Al countered with four examples of states where Democrats have a large advantage in registration numbers.

You answered by saying there are a lot of partisans. 

This does not explain how states where Democrats heavily outnumber Republicans voted for the Republican for President.

That is correct, but it's *not* my point. There are a lot of partisan Democrats and partisan Republicans....just as there are moderate Democrats and Republicans.

So rather than provide an intelligent answer to the question you posted a non-sequitor that looked like a really dumb answer to the question.

Got ya.

No. You're suggesting that just because there are a lot of partisans that means that every Democrat and every Republican is voting with their party...that's not what I said at all.

[danwxman]

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

Then why did you answer the initial question the way you did?

My original point is that we have a very polarized, partisan country right now. What is the problem?

Your statement was that we are a highly partisan and polarized nation.  It would then follow that members of a party would support their party heavily.

Al countered with four examples of states where Democrats have a large advantage in registration numbers.

You answered by saying there are a lot of partisans. 

This does not explain how states where Democrats heavily outnumber Republicans voted for the Republican for President.

That is correct, but it's *not* my point. There are a lot of partisan Democrats and partisan Republicans....just as there are moderate Democrats and Republicans.

So rather than provide an intelligent answer to the question you posted a non-sequitor that looked like a really dumb answer to the question.

Got ya.

No. You're suggesting that just because there are a lot of partisans that means that every Democrat and every Republican is voting with their party...that's not what I said at all.

Ok, explain to me what you meant when you answered that there are a lot of partisan democrats and republicans when asked to explain why four states with large democrat advanteges in party registration voted Republican.

Please answer without resorting to offensive smears or non-sequitors.

Where have I posted any offensive smears in this thread?? lmao..

That has nothing to do with my original point but I'll answer it. There's a lot of conservative Democrats, and not a lot of conservative Democratic politicians left. Please respond without assuming I'm some kind of idiot. Thanks.